S2 6.7 Junk Rig Conversion

  • 24 May 2019 15:07
    Reply # 7389428 on 6872873

    Unless I missed something (likely!) I now have a completed sail. The loops for lacing the boom were the last things to be attached. I think 10 will be enough, but I am not sure.

    Arne, I have been too stingy to purchase AL tubes for battens yet. To follow your advice I bought a wooden dowel with the same diameter that the battens will have. I used this as the 'batten stub' to check the alignment of the larger hoops. I was not completely sure what I was checking for -- I settled on a goal of making sure the big hoops, and not the batten pockets, are holding the weight of the batten. Hopefully I got close enough to doing it 'right'.

    Now I have a sail and nothing else.

    I am not sure what to start on next. I think I might do the boat modifications in the 'bottom up' direction and work on the mast step.

    Does anyone have some advice on what to do next?

    Last modified: 24 May 2019 15:14 | Anonymous member
  • 21 May 2019 18:39
    Reply # 7354179 on 6872873
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Yes, Scott,
    The throat area surely is a busy place on those sails, since I have brought the battens a bit close to each other there. The backside of Ingeborg's  sail looks just as overloaded with stitches as yours.

    I focus on getting the position of the big hoops right, in particular at the leech end where the sheets will try to drag the battens out of position., and therefore use a stub of batten tube to help me with that.

    You appear to be almost there!

    Arne


  • 21 May 2019 14:06
    Reply # 7353492 on 6872873

    Thanks for the response, Arne. Knowing that at least one person read my post really helps me stay motivated.

    I have more webbing loops (or hoops?) sewn on now. I am happy with how most of them look. The only exception is near the throat. There is a lot going on right there. I think there is almost as much thread as there is cloth. I was not able to make long seams to attach the webbing in this area. All the layers are just too much for my machine to sew.

    Criticism from anyone is always welcome but I think I will just try it the way it is before making any changes.

    Next up is attaching the small loops to the foot of the sail. I think this will be the last step using the sewing machine.

  • 14 May 2019 18:32
    Reply # 7341067 on 6872873
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Scott,
    I wouldn’t worry too much about that  -  I have found that I get away with most things on junkrigs. The very first blue, cambered panel sail I made for my Malena, in 1994 (NL 30), had full-length batten pockets, so there were no gaps for tying on the batten parrels or Hong Kong parrels.
    I didn’t worry about that  -  that was an experimental sail, and not expected to last, so I just burned holes with a solder iron to fit the batten parrels. That worked fine, no problem.

    So just keep up the good work!

    Arne

    PS: That 'experimental sail' was in full use for 16-17 seasons...


  • 14 May 2019 13:29
    Reply # 7340262 on 6872873

    There is so much going on with the JRA at the moment. More forum discussion than I have seen before and all the AGM activity.

    I am trying to stick to the 'do at least a little bit every day' plan for my sail. I have marine vinyl batten pockets sewn on now. I ended up with inconsistent spacing between the forward and aft pockets somehow. I am not sure if that will be a problem. I plan to hold off on any rework until after I hoist the sail.

    Last modified: 14 May 2019 19:44 | Anonymous member
  • 09 May 2019 13:27
    Reply # 7331182 on 6872873

    Thanks for the encouragement, Andrew.

    I do not actually have a mast, or mast step, or tabernacle yet. The boat is still in winter storage. It may be some time before I can actually hoist the sail. I would really like to be sailing under a junk rig before the end of this summer. I am not sure if that is a realistic goal.

    I attached the last of the aft batten pockets yesterday. Next up is marking and cutting out the pockets that will go near the mast.

    I may have been running my butane hot knife too hot, or pushing on it too much, or maybe it is just not intended to last forever. The hot knife tip bent and tore apart at the threads. I thought I would need to use a reverse drill bit to remove the threads. Fortunately after it cooled down I was able to unscrew it normally.

    Not shown in the photos: I have a big jar full of used basting staples. I spilled the whole thing all over the carpet. I am not sure I will ever find all of them. Always an adventure.

    Last modified: 09 May 2019 19:36 | Anonymous member
  • 06 May 2019 15:42
    Reply # 7324902 on 6872873

    Looking great! Looking forward to seeing the sail hung for the first time.

  • 06 May 2019 13:47
    Reply # 7324761 on 6872873

    Thank you for the positive responses David and Arne.

    If anyone is interested -- I am slowing making some progress. I attached loops along the head of the sail and put larger loops on the four corners. Shown in the photo is my second attempt making the loop for the yard at the luff. I am still not sure it will work but I don't really feel like trying again at the moment.

    One day I lifted the sail while I was standing on one of the tell tails and it popped right off. Darn. I will need to find a way to reattach this.

    I have been sewing on the aft batten pockets. I have 4 of the 6 stitched on.

    Last modified: 06 May 2019 14:44 | Anonymous member
  • 20 Apr 2019 17:28
    Reply # 7295907 on 6872873

    Webbing bolt rope attached. I underestimated how much I needed to plan ahead on some of the corners. I ripped two of the strips off and did them again.

    Last modified: 20 Apr 2019 17:29 | Anonymous member
  • 13 Apr 2019 08:23
    Reply # 7280485 on 6872873

    Scott, it's the stitching that needs protection from the battens, not the cloth. It's quite in order to have an unfinished edge of cloth inside a batten pocket. If you're doing your pockets according to Arne's method, I just don't see a problem at all. The Weathermax 80 that I used for a sailcover is not at all inclined to fray when scissor cut, so I don't suppose that Weathermax 65 is particularly vulnerable.

    Don't worry, be happy!

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