Galion 22 conversion

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  • 13 Sep 2020 19:56
    Reply # 9232684 on 5070195

    Thank you for your reply, I'll continue to search the good arrangement.

  • 13 Sep 2020 07:23
    Reply # 9231762 on 5070195

    Sorry, no. But the fact is I have to tie and/or lift the self steering system whenever the motor is lowered. In the beginning I wasn't aware of this, and got severe damage from the propeller to the self steering oar. 

    Last modified: 13 Sep 2020 07:36 | Anonymous member
  • 13 Sep 2020 07:05
    Reply # 9231756 on 5070195

    Hi Jami, great job on your boat.

    Do you have a photo of the arrangement of the windvane and the outboard ? I'd like to do the same on my boat, but I find it difficult to place both on a 75cm wide transom.

  • 05 Sep 2020 09:05
    Reply # 9213315 on 5070195

    I’m starting to feel I (or actually my boat) would have liked the jibs to be some 15-20 cm wider. It wouldn’t be a big job to sew new ones. But is it possible to lengthen the 35x1,5mm battens at the front end? I suspect it’s the least stressed place of the batten, so adding 20cm of the same tube with an inner sleeve shouldn’t be a problem - or am I totally wrong?

  • 04 Sep 2020 21:22
    Reply # 9212721 on 5070195

    One finds things to fix, others to improve and some to get rid of. But still - it doesn’t get much better than this.

    Last modified: 04 Sep 2020 21:23 | Anonymous member
  • 26 Aug 2020 14:54
    Reply # 9191536 on 5070195

    Yes Arne,

    I agree your point on the hull-driven weather helm, even though it has eased a lot with this more balanced sail. This is why I will probably make a new transom-hung rudder and skeg for next year.

    But then again this might induce lee helm when not heeling a lot, right?

    The best solution might be adding two feet of waterline to the transom...

    Regarding the sheet: my boat/sail would probably benefit from a setup that is exactly opposite to your anti-twist sheet, that is sheeting the lower part in more than the upper.

    Last modified: 26 Aug 2020 14:57 | Anonymous member
  • 26 Aug 2020 13:03
    Reply # 9191236 on 5070195
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Hi Jami
    It will be interesting to read your report when you have accumulated more miles, in varying conditions. Your few words about the lee and weather helm, strengthen my belief that the balance issues is hull-related rather than related to (any ) rigs.

    I begin to wonder if boats with such weather helm issues should rather be rigged as yawls, so weather helm can be trimmed out, just by easing the mizzen sheet.

    As for the use of the Johanna-sheeting with its strong anti-twist, I am not so sure. This was specifically meant for the Hasler-McLeod style sail with a tall yard angle and full-length yard and top battens. It may well be that this kind of sheet will produce ‘negative’ twist on your rig.

    Anyway, keep up the good work!

    Last modified: 26 Aug 2020 15:58 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 26 Aug 2020 09:50
    Reply # 9190943 on 5070195


    first of all my sincere thanks for the vane design. It has made my sailing so much more relaxing, that words fail me!

    I have experienced with one and two part sheet, and haven't made up my mind about which to stick to. I dislike the amount of rope with two, but with one I seem to have more problems with over-tight upper part of the sail than getting too little twist - and I haven't even installed a Arne-type anti-twist sheet.

    As said earlier, the vane works very well. However, I have also wondered about if the vane oar has too much character of it's own. And I have the problem of fouling to the prop, which has even led to damage and re-glassing of the oar once. I have to tie the oar whenever I use the motor (I have a setup which allows me to lift the wind vane system up, although not fully).

    But lee helm? This is something I have not noticed, not with the vane or when hand-steering. If something, I still have quite a lot of aggressive, "dinghy-like" weather helm whenever the sail catches a gust.

  • 26 Aug 2020 08:41
    Reply # 9190857 on 5070195

    Congratulations on a well made sail, Jami! Looking very good. I'm just wondering why the telltale on the lowest panel isn't stable, but turns through a circle - is the bottom of the sail over-sheeted a bit, in relation to the rest of the sail? I suspect that this is the case, if reefed, and is why I go for upper and lower sheets to get better control of twist.

    And hey, that windvane looks just like mine! Actually, I'm thinking of trimming a little off the height and/or width, as it seems to be a bit more powerful than necessary and fouls my outboard motor occasionally, when that is raised out of the water.

    Also, the vane is leaning in the direction that implies that you have some lee helm. 

    Last modified: 26 Aug 2020 08:43 | Anonymous member
  • 26 Aug 2020 06:51
    Reply # 9190778 on 5070195

    The split in the top probably isn't worth the effort performancewise, but I liked the aesthetics part of it :)

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