SibLim update

  • 27 Jan 2020 22:29
    Reply # 8696299 on 8696246
    Anonymous wrote:
    David wrote:
    Annie wrote:

    Finally, I have made time to update my blog.  Lots of pictures for those who like photos!   

    Dying to see what Annie does for a pram hood/ dome arrangement/ watch keeper's station so I can steal her ideas for my Badger.........  I have a conventional sliding hatch with hatch boards (?).  I want companionway protection, a seat and ability to reach sail controls dryish NOT in a solid dodger.  The Golden Globe boats had some interesting dodgers that had backs on them for warmth/ spray protection.

    Have a look at the pramhood I made for Tystie, David. It uses standard 3/4" sprayhood fittings and 3/4" aluminium tube that can be easily bent by hand around a MDF former.
    Thanks for the tips especially the sizes and fittings David.
  • 27 Jan 2020 22:28
    Reply # 8696297 on 8696246


    Dying to see what Annie does for a pram hood/ dome arrangement/ watch keeper's station so I can steal her ideas for my Badger.........  I have a conventional sliding hatch with hatch boards (?).  I want companionway protection, a seat and ability to reach sail controls dryish NOT in a solid dodger.  The Golden Globe boats had some interesting dodgers that had backs on them for warmth/ spray protection.

    Have a look at the pramhood I made for Tystie, David. It uses standard 3/4" sprayhood fittings and 3/4" aluminium tube that can be easily bent by hand around a MDF former.

    Annie and David I totally get the spray hood design and benefits.

    How do you solve:

    • Security.  How do you replace it with a hard hatch locked from inside?
    • Annie you are doing a pram hood and a dome.  From what I can see on your old Badger pics the dome was on legs that flipped over and sat on top of your pram hood?  Is this what you are going to do?  How do you secure all that?
    • My Badger has a conventional sliding hatch and companionway hatch boards?  Would you consider installing the pram hood on that sliding hatch?  Could the hatch still slide w this hole in it?
    • Everyone talks about a nav station seat but I have not seen a pic of one other than the swing on the North Atlantic 29.  Would love pics/ ideas of that.  Annie again COMBING  thru my Badger manual, sorry  I meant you book, I see somewhere foot holes in the walls to climb up but what are you climbing to?  And can you control sails from sitting down?  One would think you occasionally need to get more torso over the cleats and winches when reefing etc.

    I was not going to ask about this after I deluged you all with dinghy and self steering questions to get working on things before boat arrived, but Annie's pics made me curious.

    I am definitely going to just live with my conventional companionway for a good while.  Its there, it's easy in and out, it gives good ventilation especially as my Badger does  not have dories or opening portholes.

    We will see.....but any ideas on somewhere I can sit and twiddle my Aries toggles 6 degree at a time in the dry will be welcome.

    And then Kim is going to want to poke her head out as well!  Need a double hatch.

    Thanks, David.







  • 27 Jan 2020 22:06
    Reply # 8696246 on 8688636
    David wrote:
    Annie wrote:

    Finally, I have made time to update my blog.  Lots of pictures for those who like photos!   

    Dying to see what Annie does for a pram hood/ dome arrangement/ watch keeper's station so I can steal her ideas for my Badger.........  I have a conventional sliding hatch with hatch boards (?).  I want companionway protection, a seat and ability to reach sail controls dryish NOT in a solid dodger.  The Golden Globe boats had some interesting dodgers that had backs on them for warmth/ spray protection.

    Have a look at the pramhood I made for Tystie, David. It uses standard 3/4" sprayhood fittings and 3/4" aluminium tube that can be easily bent by hand around a MDF former.
  • 27 Jan 2020 19:34
    Reply # 8695895 on 8688780
    Graeme wrote:

    The cockpit looks beautiful, well done Annie. I too am interested in more details of the plastic dome.

    By the way, the word is "torus" isn't it? I guess the plural is "tori".

    Dome from Cambria Plastics.

    Of course it's torus: why was I thinking about a tiny insect instead?  Duh.

  • 27 Jan 2020 19:29
    Reply # 8695890 on 8688636
    David D wrote:Dying to see what Annie does for a pram hood/ dome arrangement/ watch keeper's station so I can steal her ideas for my Badger.........  I have a conventional sliding hatch with hatch boards (?).  I want companionway protection, a seat and ability to reach sail controls dryish NOT in a solid dodger.  The Golden Globe boats had some interesting dodgers that had backs on them for warmth/ spray protection.
    Straight out of the book, David, just like we had on Badger

    .  The pramhood is so much better than the solid dodger or folding spray hood that I don't understand why it isn't more used.  I have often been on boats at anchor, wind against tide, where people have had to shut the hatch to keep out the wind that is greatly intensified by the scoop of a dodger that they have built.  And I am quite sure that the reason for more and more people using drogues is because of the windage of these things.  If you can rotate your dodger, you don't need to put a back on it!

    If you look carefully at the photos, you will see that everything is there, except for the pramhood.  This needs some metal fabrication and to be quite honest, the money is not available for that: the cost of the shed, while 'reasonable' in real terms, is proving to be a killer because I'm taking so long.  Getting stainless steel bits and pieces fabricated is horribly expensive.  I have the bubble to close the hole so will probably do the pramhood itself, after I've launched and can start saving some money again!

  • 27 Jan 2020 19:23
    Reply # 8695885 on 8688617
    David T wrote:

    Looking very beautiful Annie. I like the yellow in the cockpit. It has warmth and interest. There is far too much white used on boats these days.


    I can never understand white on decks: it's far to dazzling.  I get told off for not wearing sunglasses often enough, but I do like to be able to go outside on a sunny day without having to wear them!  But I do like colour in my life, anyway.
    Last modified: 27 Jan 2020 19:31 | Anonymous member
  • 27 Jan 2020 19:21
    Reply # 8695882 on 8684520
    David (TGO) wrote:Wasn't there going to be a short stern deck, or is this yet to come? Something needs to make the stern rigid sideways, under sheeting loads. At least some lodging knees in the corners.

    What diameter is the pramhood/bubble aperture?

    I'm planning to put a seat across, but need to work out just where the rudder heads will be, first.  You didn't show anything on the plans :-)  The structure is, in fact, already very rigid - I've sat on it, leant on it a leant against

    it on many occasions: I think it would quite happily take the sheeting loads as is, anyway.  But I should love to have a seat across it.

    The internal diameter is 500mm. More than adequate.  It's funny: when I climb in and out of it, my foot instinctively seeks the foothold that I used on Badger, 20 years ago!

    Last modified: 27 Jan 2020 19:32 | Anonymous member
  • 27 Jan 2020 09:35
    Reply # 8693327 on 4315719

    Now is that a Mellow Yellow or what?  Nice detail in the cockpit too, as usual, plus the interesting Jester pramhood and perspex dome combination.

  • 26 Jan 2020 19:31
    Reply # 8688780 on 4315719

    The cockpit looks beautiful, well done Annie. I too am interested in more details of the plastic dome.

    By the way, the word is "torus" isn't it? I guess the plural is "tori".

  • 26 Jan 2020 19:13
    Reply # 8688636 on 8683224
    Anonymous wrote:

    Finally, I have made time to update my blog.  Lots of pictures for those who like photos!   

    Dying to see what Annie does for a pram hood/ dome arrangement/ watch keeper's station so I can steal her ideas for my Badger.........  I have a conventional sliding hatch with hatch boards (?).  I want companionway protection, a seat and ability to reach sail controls dryish NOT in a solid dodger.  The Golden Globe boats had some interesting dodgers that had backs on them for warmth/ spray protection.

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