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  • 05 Oct 2016 22:22
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    I'll post as soon as possible - honest!  Busy trying to evict sparrows and make the shed weathertight again.
  • 05 Oct 2016 19:24
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    Annie Hill wrote:

    ... and was distracted by taking my boat out of its shed, getting it turned over and put on its keel, making a temporary cover to keep the rain off until it could be put back in the shed, finishing off the keel installation, etc.

    Remembering back to when we turned the model SibLim over, and how greatly relieved I was to see how it had turned out looking pretty much as I imagined and as a boat ought to look, I'm now all agog to see the photos of the real SibLim on her keel. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. 

    On the other hand, I don't want to distract you from the work you need to do. Perhaps another Siblim Club member might step in and wield a camera?
  • 29 Sep 2016 21:48
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    David Doran wrote:I also occasionally get lower back problems (soreness, stiffness,etc) when I've been doing a lot of sitting or lie-ing in awkward positions like you probably are when sanding, or epoxying and filleting,etc. You mentioned leg cramps were preventing you from stretching. I went to a trained physio in the end and the cause of my back problems turned out to mainly be very tight leg muscles and tendons which were pulling my hip and lower vertebrae out of position. Regular stretching of my legs especially, but regular stretching overall body stretching in general seems to keep a lot of my creaks and grinds at bay. Might be worth talking to someone in the physio field?

    Again, I thank you for your concern.  I really don't think that my odd aches and pains are anything but the result of the ageing process.  I have every intention of carrying on as usual for another 30 years, but don't expect my body to function exactly as it did 30 years ago.  The only thing that does concern me is my back, which I keep a sharp eye on, by and large.  I suffered severe pain from it for a couple of years in the late 90s and wouldn't want to go there again, ever.  It is now completely recovered from its recent bout, I'm pleased to say.  Considering I've been putting in eight-hour days of fairly hard physical labour for the past 12 months, I can't really complain!
  • 29 Sep 2016 08:08
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    I also occasionally get lower back problems (soreness, stiffness,etc) when I've been doing a lot of sitting or lie-ing in awkward positions like you probably are when sanding, or epoxying and filleting,etc. You mentioned leg cramps were preventing you from stretching. I went to a trained physio in the end and the cause of my back problems turned out to mainly be very tight leg muscles and tendons which were pulling my hip and lower vertebrae out of position. Regular stretching of my legs especially, but regular stretching overall body stretching in general seems to keep a lot of my creaks and grinds at bay. Might be worth talking to someone in the physio field?
  • 27 Sep 2016 22:00
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    Mark Thomasson wrote:

    Having suffered from bad back in the past, you have my sympathies.

    What I find really helps is to have a good stretch before / as you get out of bed.  

    Curiously I have just been linked to a video from The Back Care Clinic on Facebook, which says the same thing.

    After a good stretch, lie on back and do a few stomach-crunches, though only lift your shoulders just off the floor.

    Also have a good look at how you sit,  most comfy seats and car seats put you lower spline into a slouch & slouch = ouch!.

    Hope this helps.  All the best Mark


    As the old body breaks down, it brings along its own set of problems.  I haven't been able to enjoy a good stretch for years - I get leg cramps when I do!  My back man showed me the stomach crunches, but I have to say I get a lot of similar exercise boatbuilding.  As for comfy seat - I wish.  The chairs in the boatshed are of the hard, kitchen table variety.

    Thank you for your concern.  I'm pleased to say that my back has sorted itself out again and I'm fighting fit once more.  :-)
  • 27 Sep 2016 21:57
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    David Tyler wrote:

    I, too, think it's worth looking for ways to put on the Coppercoat with the hull upside down. It's such heavy stuff, and to have gravity working in the wrong direction and making it sag, makes it much harder to get a good result. I speak as one who has personally applied it to one boat (Ivory Gull), and had it applied to another (Tystie). Certainly it has to be applied coat-on-coat, but that's not the same as saying that the entire bottom has to be done at once. You can do the bottom and deadwood, from ladders leaned against the hull, then move on to one of the inclined panels, using a long handled roller, then move around to the other side. All much easier than lying on your back, wielding a roller made very heavy by the weight of copper.


    The bilge panels are actually very wide and it's difficult to get at the bottom of the boat by way of ladders.  I did think about doing it in sections, as you suggest.  Long-handled rollers are pretty tiring, if you are using them all day.  If Kevin has to delay moving the boat out, I might yet do it, but in fact will only need to 'lie on my back' to do the bottom, and even that probably won't be necessary, because the boat will be raised up quite a bit.  I have actually given this issue quite a lot of thought - because, as you say, I realise it's heavy work.
  • 27 Sep 2016 21:53
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    Arne Kverneland wrote:

    Er...

    Annie, could i suggest you fit the paint roller on a long broom handle? I find that to be very good for applying messy stuff like antifouling...

    Arne


    I thought about that, but would need to erect some form of scaffolding and there probably isn't sufficient space between the stuff along the side of the shed (most of which isn't mine) and the boat to do this.  Right side up, it will actually be pretty straightforward and within arm's reach.
  • 27 Sep 2016 14:35
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    It's easy to get caught up in the desire to make progress on the boat and give up exercise.  I've done this in the last year and suffered the consequences.  You've probably already received more advice than you need, but what really helped my back was swimming.  I go twice a week now and the days following on the boat are some of my most productive.  Lounging in the steam room and hot tub doesn't seem to hurt either.
  • 27 Sep 2016 13:44
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    Having suffered from bad back in the past, you have my sympathies.

    What I find really helps is to have a good stretch before / as you get out of bed.  

    Curiously I have just been linked to a video from The Back Care Clinic on Facebook, which says the same thing.

    After a good stretch, lie on back and do a few stomach-crunches, though only lift your shoulders just off the floor.

    Also have a good look at how you sit,  most comfy seats and car seats put you lower spline into a slouch & slouch = ouch!.

    Hope this helps.  All the best Mark
  • 27 Sep 2016 10:39
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    May I just add my support to David's view?

    From hard experience, not fighting gravity, is the best way to do it!


    Regards Tim
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