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  • 08 Feb 2013 02:11
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    Gary Pick wrote:
    Gary King wrote:Hey GaryP, maybe that bloke in Gippsland will tire of his Badger and want to give it up!
    (not likely though..)

    PS I think the price of the Brittany one (by a member here) is less than what we spent building ours.

    Or I can go for an S&S 34, there's some good ones around. Prove sea boat as well.
    Impressive pedigree that boat, Swarbrick in Perth built the lion share of 150+ S&S34's in Australia. Add Jon Sanders and Kay Cottee to Paul's list using the SS34.
    Swarbricks are still building them today.
  • 08 Feb 2013 01:38
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    Paul Thompson wrote:I must say that if I were in Oz and looking for a boat, I'd be seriously looking at the S&S 34. They are good glass boats with outstanding seakeeping abilities and a reasonable amount of room. They are also available at reasonable prices.

    The boat was the choice of quite a few single handed circumnavigators, the most recent being Jessica Watson & Jesse Martin to name two. It also a boat that would take kindly to a junk rig.

    Fitouts I've looked at range from very nice for cruising to very basic for racing. I wonder if anyone has drawn up a JR rig for one, I'd be interested in seeing the mast placements in regard to fit out.
  • 08 Feb 2013 01:18
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    Gary King wrote:Hey GaryP, maybe that bloke in Gippsland will tire of his Badger and want to give it up!
    (not likely though..)

    PS I think the price of the Brittany one (by a member here) is less than what we spent building ours.

    Or I can go for an S&S 34, there's some good ones around. Prove sea boat as well.
  • 08 Feb 2013 01:13
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    Hey GaryP, maybe that bloke in Gippsland will tire of his Badger and want to give it up!
    (not likely though..)

    PS I think the price of the Brittany one (by a member here) is less than what we spent building ours.
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  • 08 Feb 2013 00:51
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    Always wanted a Badger ever since Annie's book let me astray and here's one for sale...in Brittany and a price I could afford if my house was sold.
    Annie, your comment to GaryK sums it up.:)
  • 08 Feb 2013 00:32
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    Barry & Meps / Stellrecht & Schulte wrote:Actually when I read George's book, I remembered a different concept than build the biggest you can fit in your yard, although I'm sure he did write that.

    I think he was one of the guys who said that you measure boats by the pound, not by the foot. And to take the interior (and weight) of the size boat you want...and then stretch it by 20% or more without adding any more interior or much more weight, making it long and lean.

    My favorite illustration of that was comparing two famous small double-handed cruisers:
    Badger at 34 feet and 10,000 pounds
    Seraffyn at 24 feet and 10,000 pounds

    (If all other things were equal...which they never are...) they would have a similar cost in both time and effort to build, but one is (relatively) long, lean, and spacious while the other is (relatively) short, tubby, and cramped.

    Barry
    I was a tongue in cheek about the 60' remark. He doesnt actually say that. He does rebel against the Pardeys' philosophy though, makes fun of them even. But they started cruising in a different era.
  • 07 Feb 2013 20:32
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    Gary King wrote:
    Gary Kepper wrote:
    Gary King wrote:
    I adopted George Buehler's line. Build the biggest boat that fits in your yard. Stretched mine to fit.
    Good thing you don't live on a ranch! hahaha...)

    I have George's book, he genuinely believes everyone should be on 60' boats. Lucky indeed I dont live on a ranch, I'd like to go sailing in my lifetime.
    Actually when I read George's book, I remembered a different concept than build the biggest you can fit in your yard, although I'm sure he did write that.

    I think he was one of the guys who said that you measure boats by the pound, not by the foot. And to take the interior (and weight) of the size boat you want...and then stretch it by 20% or more without adding any more interior or much more weight, making it long and lean.

    My favorite illustration of that was comparing two famous small double-handed cruisers:
    Badger at 34 feet and 10,000 pounds
    Seraffyn at 24 feet and 10,000 pounds

    (If all other things were equal...which they never are...) they would have a similar cost in both time and effort to build, but one is (relatively) long, lean, and spacious while the other is (relatively) short, tubby, and cramped.

    Barry
  • 07 Feb 2013 20:15
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    Gary King wrote:Now that you're calm Gary. Here's a Badger for sale.
    Oh Gary!  Now you're being unkind to the poor man!
  • 07 Feb 2013 17:42
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    Now that you're calm Gary. Here's a Badger for sale.
  • 07 Feb 2013 06:24
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    Reply # 1201315 on 1197363
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    I must say that if I were in Oz and looking for a boat, I'd be seriously looking at the S&S 34. They are good glass boats with outstanding seakeeping abilities and a reasonable amount of room. They are also available at reasonable prices.

    The boat was the choice of quite a few single handed circumnavigators, the most recent being Jessica Watson & Jesse Martin to name two. It also a boat that would take kindly to a junk rig.
    Last modified: 07 Feb 2013 06:25 | Anonymous member
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