Boat types that have been converted to junk - can you help?

  • 19 Mar 2015 18:07
    Reply # 3258723 on 1519628
    Anonymous

    Alan

    e-mail it to me and i'll upload it and make relevant links.

    Chris

    Last modified: 19 Mar 2015 18:28 | Anonymous
  • 19 Mar 2015 19:17
    Reply # 3258821 on 1519628
    Anonymous

    OK, Alan has sent me the spreadsheet, and it can be accessed from the menu, left, under Junk Information->Useful Links->Sails, Masts and Gear under the heading 'Rig Conversions and Designs'.

    We will try to keep this spreadsheet up to date, so if anyone has any additions, let Alan, or the Webmaster, or both, know and we will make the additions as they come in.

    Chris

    Last modified: 19 Mar 2015 19:18 | Anonymous
  • 19 Mar 2015 23:19
    Reply # 3259067 on 1519628
    Is this a good way of letting Alan B and the webmaster know?

    Badger's name isn't there as being the first one junk-rigged

    20ft Westcoaster  UK  Plywood hull. I can't remember the sail area.  Sloop  Owner design. Present owner unknown  Missee Lee.

    26ft Raven.  NZ  GRP  312 sq ft  Sloop  Tyler/Hill design  Owner Annie Hill   Fantail 

    Vertue  RSA  Timber   ?sq ft  Sloop  Pete Hill/Vincent Reddish design  Owner Shirley Carter  Speedwell of Hong Kong


  • 20 Mar 2015 00:10
    Reply # 3259100 on 1519628
    Anonymous

    Point of order.

    JRA Factsheet No. 5 was/is a list of boat designs which have been rigged/converted to junk rig - allowing owners to see if a boat of their type had already been done.

    The current list has several instances of quite a few of the listed models, which seems to be a bit redundant, and will eventually produce a very long list indeed. However, where the several instances have been rigged by different designers, or in different ways, they may well be worth including. What do we think?

  • 20 Mar 2015 00:19
    Reply # 3259116 on 1519628

    Keep it simple and combine the lists and publish just one, both in the mag and on the site. Where hull conversions have been done by multiple designers, include them all.

  • 20 Mar 2015 02:31
    Reply # 3259167 on 1519628
    While it might make it a bit cumbersome to list all the versions of one design, there are some advantages
    • it implies that the junk conversion is successful
    • it allows members to contact owners, even if the owner of the original design is not a member

    If we are doing this as a spreadsheet, an idea might be to put, for example Rocket Ship 25*.  The asterisk would mean that more than one of this design has been built.  Then, on Sheet 2 of the spreadsheet, could be listed all the other Rocket Ships (and Badgers and Sprays and whatever), so that the person who was seriously interested could find out more, while the person searching for something other than the Rocket Ship 25 could go straight on to Rolling Stone 33 and continue down the list of designs.


  • 20 Mar 2015 09:29
    Reply # 3259368 on 1519628
    Anonymous

    One solution might be to update the fact sheet, keeping its present format as a simple list of models that have been successfully converted, with a link to the much more comprehensive spreadsheet.

  • 20 Mar 2015 12:42
    Reply # 3259502 on 1519628
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Now we have it as a spreadsheet we can do lots of different things, but I am against having separate lists as that means you have to update both of them every time something changes.

    When opening the new list just now it is read only, but people can use the tools in Excel to sort the list any way they want.

    I quite like Annie's idea of putting an asterisk (or and asterix!) next to the models where there is more than one conversion or even putting a number in brackets to show how many there are, as there are lots of Kingfishers out there. At least with her idea the additional ones are on the same workbook, and we would only need to add some text to tell people what the asterisk or number in brackets means, and how to find the extra boats.

    I felt it was worth showing on the main list where there are different rig types on the same hull, as this makes it easier if people are interested in schooners, say, or swingwings.

  • 23 Mar 2015 23:17
    Reply # 3263356 on 1519628

    I can add an Eclipse 22 and an Etap 23i.

    Cheers, Paul

  • 24 Mar 2015 09:32
    Reply # 3263781 on 1519628
    Anonymous

    OK Paul - they're added & latest version uploaded.


    Chris

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