Galion 22 conversion

  • 14 Sep 2017 10:03
    Reply # 5210436 on 5070195

    I've just done some figuring, and 140/4 is coming out OK, as the lower tube on its own, so long as it is T6 temper. Could you accept this, with a wooden topmast?

  • 14 Sep 2017 09:15
    Reply # 5206737 on 5201606
    David Tyler wrote:

    So, is the outside diameter 145, and not 150? Quite likely, as there is a Nedal tapered tube at this size. If so, I'm not so sure that it's a good idea to use it.

    If it is indeed a Nedal tube, is the next size up available, 165mm? That's the size that I have. If so, your troubles are over.


    No, it's not a Nedal tube, but a finnish-made one :/


    Oh dear, back to square one.

    Last modified: 14 Sep 2017 09:15 | Anonymous member
  • 14 Sep 2017 08:12
    Reply # 5201606 on 5070195

    So, is the outside diameter 145, and not 150? Quite likely, as there is a Nedal tapered tube at this size. If so, I'm not so sure that it's a good idea to use it.

    If it is indeed a Nedal tube, is the next size up available, 165mm? That's the size that I have. If so, your troubles are over.

    Last modified: 14 Sep 2017 08:35 | Anonymous member
  • 14 Sep 2017 06:47
    Reply # 5194047 on 5070195

    David, you were indeed right - the flagpole has 2,8 meters of straight tube at the lower part. 

    However, the inner dimension is 140mm or a tad under it, so there is no way of inserting a 140mm tube in. And the next diameter available is 130mm. 

    Do I have other options to strengthen the lower part? A wooden inner mast?

    (Or getting a 140mm tube done to 139mm by a machinist, which I'm afraid will be expensive considering that I have to buy 6000mmm of the 140mm tube anyway. Is it possible to do this with home tools yourself?)

    Last modified: 14 Sep 2017 06:55 | Anonymous member
  • 13 Sep 2017 12:59
    Reply # 5094653 on 5094463
    David Tyler wrote:

    Generally, these flagpoles are parallel for a third to a half of their length, and then they start to taper, so I was thinking that at least a 4m length of internal sleeve was possible, if thought desirable.

    I had the impression that this pole is tapered all the way, but it seems that I have to ask the provider to be sure.
  • 13 Sep 2017 12:56
    Reply # 5094463 on 5070195

    Generally, these flagpoles are parallel for a third to a half of their length, and then they start to taper, so I was thinking that at least a 4m length of internal sleeve was possible, if thought desirable.

  • 13 Sep 2017 12:41
    Reply # 5093082 on 5070195
    Oh, you must mean inserting the straight tube inside the flagpole.

    The pole is tapered from 150mm to 60mm in 12 metres, which means about 7,5 mm per meter. A 140mm tube would fit only a tad more than a meter inside the pole, right?

  • 13 Sep 2017 12:29
    Reply # 5092062 on 5090709
    David Tyler wrote:

    Sorry, I don't think the flagpole is enough on its own. But if you were to take a length of 140 x 4 tube (maybe 3m long?), add a seal at each end that was guaranteed leakproof  to fill the 2.5mm gap (maybe some self adhesive foam rubber strip?) push it inside, drill a hole and pour in polyurethane casting resin, then I think you could end up with a very good mast. Strong and stiff at the bottom, light at the top.

    Hmm - and sorry. I'm sure it's me and not your text, but I don't seem to get the idea. Do you mean that this straight tube is inserted inside the flagpole or vice versa? Or something else?
  • 13 Sep 2017 12:11
    Reply # 5090709 on 5070195

    Sorry, I don't think the flagpole is enough on its own. But if you were to take a length of 140 x 4 tube (maybe 3m long?), add a seal at each end that was guaranteed leakproof  to fill the 2.5mm gap (maybe some self adhesive foam rubber strip?) push it inside, drill a hole and pour in polyurethane casting resin, then I think you could end up with a very good mast. Strong and stiff at the bottom, light at the top.

  • 13 Sep 2017 11:50
    Reply # 5089071 on 5070195
    It seems that there are tapered aluminium flagpoles available here. The length is 12m and the diameter ranges from 150mm to 60mm, but the wall thickness is only 2,5mm. I suppose this is not enough, even I could cut 2 meters off from the top?
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