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  • 23 Aug 2017 08:25
    Reply # 5043133 on 5042707
    Paul Thompson wrote:

    It's all technique, you need to use a fine mohair roller... LC's interior is all waterbase Resene acrylic and I defy you to find a brush or roller mark.
    I'm sure it is - I never pretended to be an expert at anything.  And I defy you not to find brush marks in my paintwork.  I call it 'the country cottage look' :-).  However, equally to the point is that I don't want to have to do it again in 5 years - especially the deckhead - and I don't trust water-based paints not to get grubby or stain over time, especially in the galley.  With luck, the polyurethane will see me out.
  • 23 Aug 2017 08:08
    Reply # 5043100 on 5042707
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    Paul Thompson wrote:
    It's all technique, you need to use a fine mohair roller... LC's interior is all waterbase Resene acrylic and I defy you to find a brush or roller mark.
    Some one with a lot more patience than me! I would never have guessed that the paintwork in LC was acrylic. The other great thing about Resene acrylic paint, (and I also think the oil based enamel), is the the toxicity of the paint is very low. Very 'green' paint. 

    There is no doubt that acrylic paint is very durable, look how long it lasts on house exteriors. All the interior varnishing I do now is also acrylic and it lasts extremely well without the yellowing of oil based varnish. I have also been using an acrylic 'oil' on my exterior furniture at home, but I can't quite figure out how 'acrylic' and 'oil' go together, but it is extremely durable. 

    Last modified: 23 Aug 2017 08:15 | Deleted user
  • 23 Aug 2017 05:11
    Reply # 5042986 on 5042707
    Paul Thompson wrote:
    Annie Hill wrote:
    David Thatcher wrote:I have been using good quality acrylic interior house paint inside Footprints with good results. I use the Resene brand which is about top of the line in NZ, and the semi gloss acrylic enamel. It is very tough, designed for moist environments, and very easy to use and clean up. Resene in New Zealand also do an oil based semi gloss interior enamel which I have also used and which seems to stand up very well to a boat interior. The only disadvantage of the acrylic that I can see is that it does not flow as well as an oil based enamel in terms of disguising the brush strokes, but at the ripe old age of 64 I have stopped caring about such things. Another advantage of using these paints is that they are available in very wide range of colours through tinting.
    I confess to having found it impossible to do a good job with water-based paints.  I started with oil-based paint, but quickly realised that I don't want to repaint this boat again, which I why I opted to poison myself instead.

    Carboline will tint your paint to any shade you want, although eyebrows have been raised about my choice of pink!


    It's all technique, you need to use a fine mohair roller... LC's interior is all waterbase Resene acrylic and I defy you to find a brush or roller mark.

     

    I used water based something or rather in the interior of my Contessa, with a mold inhibitor pre-added.  So far no mold, but brush strokes and roller marks everywhere.

  • 23 Aug 2017 02:00
    Reply # 5042707 on 5042508
    Annie Hill wrote:
    David Thatcher wrote:I have been using good quality acrylic interior house paint inside Footprints with good results. I use the Resene brand which is about top of the line in NZ, and the semi gloss acrylic enamel. It is very tough, designed for moist environments, and very easy to use and clean up. Resene in New Zealand also do an oil based semi gloss interior enamel which I have also used and which seems to stand up very well to a boat interior. The only disadvantage of the acrylic that I can see is that it does not flow as well as an oil based enamel in terms of disguising the brush strokes, but at the ripe old age of 64 I have stopped caring about such things. Another advantage of using these paints is that they are available in very wide range of colours through tinting.
    I confess to having found it impossible to do a good job with water-based paints.  I started with oil-based paint, but quickly realised that I don't want to repaint this boat again, which I why I opted to poison myself instead.

    Carboline will tint your paint to any shade you want, although eyebrows have been raised about my choice of pink!


    It's all technique, you need to use a fine mohair roller... LC's interior is all waterbase Resene acrylic and I defy you to find a brush or roller mark.
  • 22 Aug 2017 23:27
    Reply # 5042508 on 5041016
    David Thatcher wrote:I have been using good quality acrylic interior house paint inside Footprints with good results. I use the Resene brand which is about top of the line in NZ, and the semi gloss acrylic enamel. It is very tough, designed for moist environments, and very easy to use and clean up. Resene in New Zealand also do an oil based semi gloss interior enamel which I have also used and which seems to stand up very well to a boat interior. The only disadvantage of the acrylic that I can see is that it does not flow as well as an oil based enamel in terms of disguising the brush strokes, but at the ripe old age of 64 I have stopped caring about such things. Another advantage of using these paints is that they are available in very wide range of colours through tinting.
    I confess to having found it impossible to do a good job with water-based paints.  I started with oil-based paint, but quickly realised that I don't want to repaint this boat again, which I why I opted to poison myself instead.

    Carboline will tint your paint to any shade you want, although eyebrows have been raised about my choice of pink!


  • 22 Aug 2017 06:25
    Reply # 5041016 on 5039120
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    Annie Hill wrote:
    Arne Kverneland wrote:

    Annie, in the blog you wrote that you aim for a satin finish when painting. How do you do that? Paul J.T. mentioned once that one can add (baby?) talcum to the paint to flatten it. Is that what you do?

    Arne

    The wonderful Paul, (another one, my local chandler) who appears to know everything there is to know about every paint, told me that, certainly for the inside, I could get away with using polyurethane undercoat.  It doesn't chalk like an oil-based undercoat.  We had just about decided for me to follow that route when he discovered that our local paint manufacturer, Carboline has started manufacturing a satin top coat.  Moreover, it has an 'indefinite overcoating time', which means that I can go back to half-finished jobs and carry on without sanding.  A good thing.  He ordered some for me, but flogged it off instantly to another customer with the same requirements.  Sigh.  This is the price I pay for the hefty discounts he gives me!  So no, nothing as clever as modifying the product, just knowing the right people.
    I have been using good quality acrylic interior house paint inside Footprints with good results. I use the Resene brand which is about top of the line in NZ, and the semi gloss acrylic enamel. It is very tough, designed for moist environments, and very easy to use and clean up. Resene in New Zealand also do an oil based semi gloss interior enamel which I have also used and which seems to stand up very well to a boat interior. The only disadvantage of the acrylic that I can see is that it does not flow as well as an oil based enamel in terms of disguising the brush strokes, but at the ripe old age of 64 I have stopped caring about such things. Another advantage of using these paints is that they are available in very wide range of colours through tinting.
    Last modified: 22 Aug 2017 06:38 | Deleted user
  • 20 Aug 2017 22:20
    Reply # 5039120 on 5038757
    Arne Kverneland wrote:

    Annie, in the blog you wrote that you aim for a satin finish when painting. How do you do that? Paul J.T. mentioned once that one can add (baby?) talcum to the paint to flatten it. Is that what you do?

    Arne

    The wonderful Paul, (another one, my local chandler) who appears to know everything there is to know about every paint, told me that, certainly for the inside, I could get away with using polyurethane undercoat.  It doesn't chalk like an oil-based undercoat.  We had just about decided for me to follow that route when he discovered that our local paint manufacturer, Carboline has started manufacturing a satin top coat.  Moreover, it has an 'indefinite overcoating time', which means that I can go back to half-finished jobs and carry on without sanding.  A good thing.  He ordered some for me, but flogged it off instantly to another customer with the same requirements.  Sigh.  This is the price I pay for the hefty discounts he gives me!  So no, nothing as clever as modifying the product, just knowing the right people.
    Last modified: 20 Aug 2017 22:32 | Anonymous member
  • 20 Aug 2017 15:22
    Reply # 5038757 on 4315719
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    Annie, in the blog you wrote that you aim for a satin finish when painting. How do you do that? Paul J.T. mentioned once that one can add (baby?) talcum to the paint to flatten it. Is that what you do?

    Arne

  • 20 Aug 2017 08:29
    Reply # 5038324 on 4315719

    Sunday morning - the time I take 'off' to do all the other things I can't fit in with building a boat and the usual household chores, is the time that I usually post on my blog.  But I was inveigled away the Sunday before last for a birthday celebration at Rob and Maren's Prince's.  And then last weekend saw the Winter junket.  I wasn't going, but was lured by the thoughts of a wood burning stove on Shoestring.  I'm a great fan of being warm, but the only place that's warm in my shed is in bed with a hot water bottle!  So I succumbed to temptation and had a nice wee sail in Shoestring and another one in Freebie, before coming back to reality.

    However, I have now caught up with my blog and you can gasp with wonder and awe at more photos of painting bits of plywood:

    Last modified: 20 Aug 2017 08:37 | Anonymous member
  • 30 Jul 2017 08:11
    Reply # 5002467 on 4315719

    Mark - by the time I've finished this boat I'll be lucky to be voyaging on any income!  (Just kidding - the funds are holding up remarkably well, really.)

    I've posted again on my blog - still painting!

       " ...there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in junk-rigged boats" 
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