North Atlantic 29 Plans out there? (E.g. Teleport)

  • 03 Mar 2017 07:07
    Reply # 4645016 on 4644469
    Jim Creighton wrote:
    David Tyler wrote:

    [sucks teeth] ... Making up full length hull panels? We're above the limit of length, I would say, and the narrower panels of a multichine hull would be floppy. It might be possible with a team of four, but altogether safer to do as Annie did and make scarphs in situ.

    What thickness of ply are we looking at? What are the limiting factors for length?
    I assume 12mm ply, as per SibLim and Bare Bones.

    The Gougeon Brothers recommend a maximum length of 16ft for panel-on-frame construction, and say that the problem is the time needed to mix and spread glue, fix the panel and then clean up. 

  • 03 Mar 2017 06:52
    Reply # 4645005 on 3632542

    I love the multichine version.  Thanks Chris.  No matter how you build it, a long-keeled, medium displacement boat like this is a big project!  As David says, if I won the lottery... (and still wanted to cross the North Atlantic to windward!)  For me, it is now just something to enjoy while musing by the fireplace, or in my case, under the shade of a large-canopied tree. 

  • 03 Mar 2017 00:02
    Reply # 4644469 on 4644174
    David Tyler wrote:

    [sucks teeth] ... Making up full length hull panels? We're above the limit of length, I would say, and the narrower panels of a multichine hull would be floppy. It might be possible with a team of four, but altogether safer to do as Annie did and make scarphs in situ.

    What thickness of ply are we looking at? What are the limiting factors for length?
  • 02 Mar 2017 20:27
    Reply # 4644174 on 3632542

    [sucks teeth] ... Making up full length hull panels? We're above the limit of length, I would say, and the narrower panels of a multichine hull would be floppy. It might be possible with a team of four, but altogether safer to do as Annie did and make scarphs in situ.

  • 02 Mar 2017 19:39
    Reply # 4644073 on 4644014
    Chris Gallienne wrote: I made a DelftShip model of the NA29 and then converted to multi-chine. Interestingly, the principal dimensions and ratios (CLR, LCB, Cp, etc.) barely changed.

    http://www.junkrigassociation.org/resources/MemberAlbums/9542258/NA29/NA29%20Rendered.jpg

    http://www.junkrigassociation.org/resources/MemberAlbums/9542258/NA29/NA29%20Hard%20Rendered.jpg


    Wow!! Impressive!

    I could envision this built with computer cut hull pieces joined with "jigsaw" joints. (Cut slightly loose to allow for error.) Bulkheads with joinery first, mounted on a strong back, joined with stringers, finished with the assembled ply pieces. What say, David?

    Cold molding was far too labour intensive, even if the end result was strong and pleasing to the eye.

    Next, I would have looked at strip planking, covered with a two layers of glass.

    But, if I had it to do over, the hard chine would get my vote.


  • 02 Mar 2017 19:31
    Reply # 4644066 on 3632542

    Ah, you've done it already, Chris. Nice. This would be a good, comfortable, gentleman's yacht.

  • 02 Mar 2017 19:06
    Reply # 4644014 on 4643956
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    David Tyler wrote:

    But I was thinking of something more akin to the NA-29 but in multichine construction.

    I made a DelftShip model of the NA29 and then converted to multi-chine. Interestingly, the principal dimensions and ratios (CLR, LCB, Cp, etc.) barely changed.

    http://www.junkrigassociation.org/resources/MemberAlbums/9542258/NA29/NA29%20Rendered.jpg

    http://www.junkrigassociation.org/resources/MemberAlbums/9542258/NA29/NA29%20Hard%20Rendered.jpg


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  • 02 Mar 2017 19:01
    Reply # 4643995 on 3632542

    We have all the drawings for Bare Bones in Jock McLeod's Archive.

  • 02 Mar 2017 18:49
    Reply # 4643977 on 4643956
    David Tyler wrote:

    Of course. I'd forgotten Bare Bones. Yes, this is what one would choose for racing across the North Atlantic at maximum speed and maximum discomfort.

    Here is a link I found for Bare Bones: https://books.google.ca/books?id=31sRT6tbwssC&pg=RA8-PA74&lpg=RA8-PA74&dq=bare+bones+primrose+design&source=bl&ots=5Bz6hc8aqA&sig=X3H2KEcguCnchZQieFEN76v90Uk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8oLDXvLjSAhUF0IMKHZd5A8MQ6AEIIjAB#v=onepage&q=bare%20bones%20primrose%20design&f=false
  • 02 Mar 2017 18:45
    Reply # 4643956 on 3632542

    Of course. I'd forgotten Bare Bones. Yes, this is what one would choose for racing across the North Atlantic at maximum speed and maximum discomfort.

    But I was thinking of something more akin to the NA-29 but in multichine construction.

    Actually, I'd want to sail across the North Atlantic with maximum style and pizazz, which means of course in a 9 metre SibLim.

    Last modified: 02 Mar 2017 18:58 | Anonymous member
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