Where to source a mast in the UK?

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  • 18 Feb 2025 09:52
    Reply # 13464434 on 13460863

    We purchased a lamppost from the Aluminium Lamppost Company (ALC) in south wales... But they become worried we were using it as a mast and could not provide the relevant computational docs (as you would have if it it really WAS going to be a lamp post) - so you might need to be circumspect...

    Our blog has a number of posts concerning this (check the "rig" menu for details... here are a couple of links:

    About the rig

    mast on trailer


    Best of luck!

  • 13 Feb 2025 22:13
    Reply # 13462918 on 13460863

    Just WOW! Thank you. So much expertise, I will enjoy my reading.

  • 13 Feb 2025 18:10
    Reply # 13462789 on 13462677
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Anonymous wrote:

    I'm sort of coming to the decision that making an 8 stave, birds mouth wooden mast might be my best option, if I can source some good timber.

    I'm sure there must be some people here who have done it, do you know of any?

    Tony Brown, Tapatya and Alan Mulhollland, Wave Rover both have YouTube videos on how they did i.  Gary Pick did articles for the magazine.  Ditto Bertrand Fercot.

     Arne Kvermeland gives detailed instructions also

    if you put the search term “mast” into our Knowledgebase (which now contains nearly 1400 links to junk rig resources) here is a selection of what you get - about half are relevant 

    ID Author Article Link Source Date Page
    20 Gary Pick How to build an 8 staved birdsmouth mast from wood
    wood, birdsmouth mast, doublas fir,
    link




    505 Gary Pick How to build an eight staved mast
    link Magazine Issue 57 September 2011 Page: 14
    519 Bertrand Fercot Building two wood masts in two stages
    link Magazine Issue 58 January 2012 Page: 33
    523 Bertrand Fercot Bi-conical Wood Masts with 12 Staves
    link Magazine Issue 59 April 2012 Page: 8
    5



    450 Werner Schulz Building a Staved Mast
    link Magazine Issue 66 October 2014 Page: 10
    344 Pol Bergius Unstayed wooden masts
    link Magazine Issue 71 June 2016 Page: 11
    263 Arne Kverneland Ingeborg's new mast step
    link Magazine Issue 76 February 2018 Page: 7
    256 Arne Kverneland Designing a cone shaped mast coat
    link Magazine Issue 77 June 2018 Page: 33
    222 Jonathon Bryant A Hinged Mast for Bluebelle
    link Magazine Issue 79 February 2019 Page: 36
    148 Shemaya Laurel Great Auk , The Mast
    link Magazine Issue 84 October 2020 Page: 44
    7

    853 Brian Young Making Solid Masts from trees
    link Newsletter Issue 31 April 1996



    link Newsletter Issue 47 August 2006
    1023 Timber mast scantlings for a Norwegian junk rig.
    link Newsletter Issue 48 January 2007





    11 Arne Kverneland The (wooden) mast - ch 6 of The Cambered Panel Junk Rig
    link
    12 Arne Kverneland The hybrid mast - ch6b of the Cambered Panel Junk Rig
    link
    15
    37 Bertrand Fercot Building of two 16m wood masts V1-0
    link
    38 Bertrand Fercot Building of two bi-conical wood free-masts made with 12 staves
    link
    44 Arne Kverneland "The Cambered Panel Junk Rig (""The book"") - Chapter 6 - The Wooden Mast"
    link
    45 Arne Kverneland "The Cambered Panel Junk Rig (""The book"") - Chapter 6b - The Hybrid Mast"
    link



    Gary Pick Birdsmouth Mast
    link


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  • 13 Feb 2025 15:04
    Reply # 13462677 on 13460863

    Thank you Kevin. I hope I didn't sound dismissive, they look like a good company.

    Haha! Good old A.I. Seems to be everywhere, no surprise that it pointed the way to JRA! I have to say, I'm in a few forums, old VWs, 3D printing etc. and nowhere have I found so many very knowledgable and very helpful people.

    I'm sort of coming to the decision that making an 8 stave, birds mouth wooden mast might be my best option, if I can source some good timber.

    I'm sure there must be some people here who have done it, do you know of any?


  • 13 Feb 2025 13:52
    Reply # 13462635 on 13462618
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Anonymous wrote:

    Hi Kevin,

    Thank you, that's interesting. The price is a little eye watering unfortunately. My budget is about £3K for the entire project, including sail!

    And no doubt they would add a hefty transport fee too.  But perhaps they’d negotiate to get their first introduction to junk rig masts?  Anyway, as I said, I posted it more for general information than thinking it would meet your particular needs.  

    I wondered where sailors of Freedoms get mast replacements and as I’m becoming a reluctant fan of AI, I put that question to ChatGPT.  Interestingly, among other true but not very helpful hints, it suggested that inspiration might be found at the Junk Rig Association website!!

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  • 13 Feb 2025 12:57
    Reply # 13462618 on 13460863

    Hi Kevin,

    Thank you, that's interesting. The price is a little eye watering unfortunately. My budget is about £3K for the entire project, including sail!

  • 13 Feb 2025 12:51
    Reply # 13462615 on 13462378
    Anonymous wrote:

    I guess you have seen these?

    https://www.duckworksmagazine.com/06/howto/birdsmouth/index.htm

    https://www.duckworksmagazine.com/10/howto/birdsmouth/index.htm


    Thanks Magne. I hadn't seen them. Excellent articles! I could 3D print the jigs fairly easily. I just haven't got a long enough, flat enough surface to lay it out. I'm sure I can find a way though.
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  • 12 Feb 2025 21:11
    Reply # 13462413 on 13460863
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Over a year ago we saw an ad for (French based) makers of wooden masts and contacted them - the correspondence is below.  We know nothing else about them but maybe others do?  In any case, putting it out there in case of use to someone


    Dear Kevin

    Thanks for this opportunity. 

    We are wooden masts makers and we can build every design you need. 

    Actually our brand are shipping masts to many different countries. We have facilities in logistics solutions. 

    I can not give you a catalog or products price list. Because we have only custom project. 

    We can provide a rough estimate easily if you have base diameter and length.

    For example,  a 10m douglas fir lamellae mast,  180-100cm tapered. Turned and sanded. Cost around 3200€ exc VAT and delivery. 

    Do you have any projects for now?


    Samuel Zambaldi Www.Woodspars.comContact@woodspars.com


    Le mar. 19 sept. 2023, 19:33, Woodspars <contact@woodspars.com> a écrit :

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    Prénom: Kevin
    Nom: Cardiff
    Ville: Dublin
    Téléphone: 0877971243
    Email: chair@junkrigassociation.org
    Message: Hi
    I am chair of the junk rig association.  Many of our members convert boats to junk rig or even build their own boats and the availability of masts,
    Yards and the sturdy battens we use is often an issue.   Can you give me a description of your range of services and costs?  For your information, a junk rig boat typically has a tapered free standing keel stepped mast in aluminium or wood or composite

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    Date: September 19, 2023
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  • 12 Feb 2025 20:10
    Reply # 13462378 on 13460863

    I guess you have seen these?

    https://www.duckworksmagazine.com/06/howto/birdsmouth/index.htm

    https://www.duckworksmagazine.com/10/howto/birdsmouth/index.htm


  • 11 Feb 2025 13:13
    Reply # 13461640 on 13461605
    Anonymous wrote:

    Hi Tony,

    I hadn't set my sights on any particular type, just whatever comes up. However I hadn't (until now) considered making my own. Strange, because I have every possible tool available to man and spent 20 years running a woodworking business!

    What timber did you use and did you design it?

    I used spruce (fairly knot-free, but not entirely) and finished it with a layer of biaxial cloth in epoxy and 2 component polyurethane paint.

    Yes, I designed them myself. 200mm diameter at the partners, tapering to 100mm at the top, and a taper from the partners down to the mast foot. I scarfed up lengths of 80 x 80 spruce to the desired length, cut an angle off the inside corners and glued (all epoxy glued) them together to make one piece 160 x 160 with a 50mm hole up the middle for cables. I them glued some boards on the parts that needed to be thicker than that, bringing them up to about 200 x 200 and then set to work with the circular saw and planer, cutting the square section to a tapered octagon and then planed to round cross-section with the desired double taper.

    With the wonders of hindsight, I can say that it was all really quite easy and I'd do it again that way. I just used a long straight edge to see that the tapers were even and they've turned out really quite well.

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