A Fold-down Companionway for Fantail

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  • 15 Nov 2012 19:46
    Reply # 1138476 on 1137518
    Yes, I'm discovering the joys of washboards. I have 3 and they tend to stick a bit.
  • 15 Nov 2012 18:31
    Reply # 1138443 on 1137518
    Thanks for all your input.  I am with child to see what Graham's photos look like - it sounds just what I'm looking for. 

    I don't want any sort of washboard to find a home for, whether I use it several times a day or once a week.  I guess you only find how irritating they are when you've lived without them for 30 years!  I'm a bit worried about fitting the new companionway - I can't say I was impressed with my first attempt, shown in the photo.


  • 15 Nov 2012 14:00
    Reply # 1138262 on 1137518

    I have always thought that a hatch on an ocean going vessel should be watertight. Preferably even if the boat rolls over.  (would the RNLI / RN have anything less)

    Washboards and the like are for day-sailors! ?

  • 15 Nov 2012 13:45
    Reply # 1138242 on 1137518
    H Annie, it is late at night and I have not looked at your photos but I have exactly the sort of folding down washboard you describe on Arion.  I will photograph it tomorrow and post the photos in my member's album.  My companionway is tapered, with a bridgedeck the same height as the cockpit seats.  The clear top panel has a timber handle which keeps the folded boards horizontal when open and it is robust enough that I can sit or stand on it.  I have a slight recess in the tapered companionway sides and bottom that have rubber strips glued in to seal them and it has always been dry.  The hinge between the two panels is also recessed and has a rubber seal. I have timber turnbuckles that hold the boards in place when closed.  I really love this system, it is always ready to go and you can open and close the companionway in 2 seconds any time of the day or night.  My only problem has been forgetting to fold the hasp back on the top board when opening.  If I don't, it gouges the deck.  I cannot see any problem with this system as long as you have a bridgedeck at the right height.  The bottom edge of my companionway is about 100mm above the bridgedeck.  Photos coming!
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  • 15 Nov 2012 05:11
    Reply # 1137937 on 1137518
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    I have just had a look at your photograph and it is not simple is it, partly because you have such a deep companionway and also because the sides are not parallel. I think I would start by glueing in the lower white board and then maybe creating an extension of the cockpit seats across, maybe a foot or so wide, as a small bridge deck. This could make for some useful extra cockpit stowage underneath, provide extra seating, and because the lower board will protrude slightly above this bridge deck by several inches there will be added security from any waves that might one day find their way into the cockpit. This would then reduce the area of the open companionway. For simplicity you could then retain the current washboards, or a modified version, and have made up a zip up/roll down/whatever clear flexible closure for use when you are onboard and don't need the full security of the solid washboards. Or once you have created the bridge deck as described above you could put a narrow infill into either side of the remaining companionway opening to make the sides parallel and then have a 3 part washboard type arrangement that folded down as per your idea and sat on, or slightly into the bridgedeck as you described. I am just not sure how you would arrange the hinging for this. 
  • 15 Nov 2012 02:42
    Reply # 1137874 on 1137518
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    Our shakedown voyage was performed while the boat was still in the backyard. What happened was the winter weather rolled in and taught us what a pain drop boards are. So I changed it to a single plywood drop board. Better but still a pain to slide in place from inside. Now I'm in the process of changing it to 2 hinged doors (cutting the drop board in 2).
  • 15 Nov 2012 01:46
    Reply # 1137814 on 1137518
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    I agree with your sentiments about washboards, terrible things and where do you put them when they are out? I have been toying with the idea of some swing out doors which are mostly windows for Footprints to replace the current washboards, but with everything else I have been doing I just have not got there yet. I do recall though that David Tyler had a good arrangement on Tystie where I think the single 'wasboard' slid down, and then pulled up to close the companionway opening. I don't think there was a bridge deck as such but a very high sill which was I guess half the height of the companionway opening.

    I think that what ever you do, and me eventually, it has got to look good, be functional, be secure, and most importantly keep the water out.

  • 14 Nov 2012 19:21
    Message # 1137518
    I hate washboards with a passion.  In the fulness of time, I am hoping to install a pram hood on Fantail, but in the meantime would like to have a better companionway arrangement. I have run this idea past the Oracle, but all input would be gratefully received.  I have added a photo of the existing companionway to 'Technical forum illustrations.'

    I am thinking of making a folding 'back door': top part clear acrylic, lower part plywood.  The top will fold 180 degrees, the bottom 90 degrees.  You walk on the bottom with the acrylic protected underneath it, when the whole thing is down.  You can raise just the wood or both.  What was the lower washboard is effectively cut in half, as I will raise the bridgedeck to the height of the cockpit benches.  It will make entering a little more awkward - for other people.

    I am very stupid about anything three dimensional, so I would
    very much appreciate any input on this.  Particularly: will I have a problem with water ingress along the vertical and if so, how should I get round this? And will the idea work anyway?

    I would use plastic strip hinge, so that should obviate the leak along the hinge line.
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