Hartley TS16 project "Redwing ll"

  • 21 Apr 2022 11:15
    Reply # 12717056 on 10087530

    Okay despite floods, pandemic and then a flood of almost biblical proportions in February this project is still happening. I've been concentrating on internal painting of hull and various ply panels.

    I have been debating on whether to replace the cabin, it's had numerous patches over the years and there is at least one soft spot. The internal argument has been along the lines of, do I repair the boat enough to get on the water...or do knuckle down and do a proper job straight off? It looks like the later, given I am redoing the cockpit seats and lockers plus the cabin aft bulkhead. I may as well do the lot, it's not like it's huge job anyway.

    Also the centreboard case was removed, rebuild and refitted. The old sails have been patched and I've organised with Paul Thompson to build me a new JR sail.

    Last modified: 21 Apr 2022 23:07 | Anonymous member
  • 27 Jul 2021 23:28
    Reply # 10778450 on 10087530

    I think I should have put this thread in the general forum, anyway I started work on the boat. The transom turned out to have a decent amount of rot but nothing compared to what Redwing suffered. I've repaired the framing and I could have the two layers of 6mm ply back on next Sunday. The cockpit seats need redoing and I need to unblock the centreboard case. To make the boat sailable  with it's present rig i will need a boom and patch a few rat holes in the sails.

  • 07 Jun 2021 10:16
    Reply # 10600455 on 10087530

    Redwing ll is now mine and sitting in the driveway. I should be able to get started on the transformation sometime in July.

  • 22 Mar 2021 04:55
    Reply # 10222734 on 10087530

    For the restoration of this boat I've found a benchmark to aim for. I want this boat to be a cruiser and not a racer.

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  • 04 Mar 2021 02:42
    Reply # 10161425 on 10087530
    I'll do that Arne.

  • 03 Mar 2021 10:40
    Reply # 10158647 on 10087530
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Good, Gary.
    When you eventually start the sail-making project, I hope you take lots of photos, and finally produce a photo-article about it. 

    Cheers, Arne

  • 03 Mar 2021 10:13
    Reply # 10158568 on 10087530

    I should have the boat late this month. I have to sell Redwing's rig to fund it, and I do have a buyer, though as part of the sale I have to add 1.2m to the mast. The TS16 does have the original BM rig but the sails are in an unkown condition. Even without pulling the cabin off it will need some work. I got the boat at a fairly low price so I'm not really getting in top condition. I am however modifying a Bolger Cartopper to JR as a means of getting my sailing fix in the meantime.

  • 03 Mar 2021 09:39
    Reply # 10158510 on 10087530
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Could that cabin renewal be postponed for the winter? The cabin is not needed to make the rig work (but the foredeck must be ok). I am asking because time is running, and if sailing has some priority, it is best not to rip the boat apart now. There will be enough to do anyway.


    PS: It should be piece of cake to add a wooden top section to that 6m mast tube, but it takes a bit time. Everything takes time. Tic-tac tic-tac...

    Last modified: 03 Mar 2021 09:45 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 03 Mar 2021 09:33
    Reply # 10158490 on 10087530

    The mast it seems is the easy bit. 80mm x 3mm Alloy tube. Though the nearest supplier only stocks 6m lengths and they don't do offcuts.

    Anyway I will have a bit of time to sort that as the boat is going to need some restorative work done including possibly a new cabin. Which shouldn't be too big a drama given what I had to do to Redwing to keep her viable. :)

  • 03 Mar 2021 09:21
    Reply # 10158471 on 10087530
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Good, Gary, then you are spoilt for choice.
    Now, I find that making the sail is the easy bit. The big job is the rigging  of the mast and sail. I suggest you prepare for a new mast, yard and battens, while you are waiting for the boat to arrive. With mast and sail in hand, you are almost there.

    Good luck!


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