Redwing

  • 14 Mar 2019 04:49
    Reply # 7218154 on 7216547
    Anonymous wrote:

    Regarding the saddle the rub is that it would not fit though the pocket, at least I don't think it would. It would have to be removed first for the batten to be slid out. The reason I'm thinking of saddles is I have not allowed a gap in the pockets and I'm not sure how I would seal the cloth edges if I cut holes.

    Gary, you can just burn holes with a soldiering iron. It will seal the edges for you.
  • 13 Mar 2019 11:03
    Reply # 7216547 on 644008

    Hi David, I had webbing loops for the battens before but really wasn't very happy with them visually and how they affected the sail. The last pocket being towards the middle of the sail was hard work as the sail had to be rolled to fit through the throat of the sewing machine. I had real trouble with the thread either tangling and jambing or the thread chaffing in the needle. Mostly caused by friction as I tried to feed the sail through the machine. These are samples of the webbing loops compared to the batten pocket.

    Regarding the saddle the rub is that it would not fit though the pocket, at least I don't think it would. It would have to be removed first for the batten to be slid out. The reason I'm thinking of saddles is I have not allowed a gap in the pockets and I'm not sure how I would seal the cloth edges if I cut holes.



    Last modified: 13 Mar 2019 11:09 | Anonymous member
  • 13 Mar 2019 09:55
    Reply # 7216472 on 644008

    Gary, did you try to add batten pockets to a pre-existing sail? That's always been a very hard thing to do on a sail of any size, well done for achieving it. It's a major part of the reason why we now make our sails in the sequence: add panel/add batten pocket/add panel/add batten pocket and so on. Then only one panel, at most, has to be rolled and passed through the machine.

    I've found that it's enough to screw on a small knob cut from plastic bar, to stop the batten parrels from sliding forwards. A saddle would have to pass through the batten pocket.

  • 13 Mar 2019 09:26
    Reply # 7216420 on 644008

    Finally finished the batten pockets on the sail. The last one was the hardest. I think the big problem was trying to feed the sail through the machine. Friction and weight made it very frustrating.

    I am almost convinced it was harder to fit the batten pockets than it was to make the sail.

    I've been thinking about how to attach the batten parrels aft of the mast and I'm thinking of using stainless steel saddles. Any opinions on that?


    Now for the new sail cover which should be an absolute doddle after that job.

  • 18 Nov 2018 07:08
    Reply # 6912399 on 644008

    Cruising Helmsman have just publish my Washington's Axe article. Very timely as Redwing is on the hard for the work I didn't get time to do last year.

    Also as I have the sail off I'm thinking of fitting batten pockets David Tyler style and getting rid of the webbing loops. I'm planning on using Sunbrella Plus.

    Last modified: 18 Nov 2018 07:36 | Anonymous member
  • 02 Apr 2018 00:08
    Reply # 6010302 on 6009704
    Annie Hill wrote:

    Graham: I'm so sorry to hear that little Arion has to go.  It's sad how these things work out.  I'm sure Fantail would have suited you, but when I was selling you were still happy to keep your boat.  I hope you soon find a good owner for her and a suitable replacement.  It must be a bit stressful having the boat for sale and yet still feeling that you have more things you'd like to do with her.


    Yes, I'd like to do a tradewind circumnavigation, but there are days when I can hardly get out of my bunk.  There is zero interest in the boat here, though, so it looks like I might be chipping rust for some time yet!  I am hoping the cooler weather will revive me, and the search for medical solutions continues.  I recently raised the head of my bunk by 5 inches to take pressure off the brain and it does seem to be useful.  The time will come when I will have to give the boat away or scrap it, but that is a few years off yet, I hope.  And who knows, if I bounce back, I might even do another coastal cruise.
  • 01 Apr 2018 02:58
    Reply # 6009704 on 644008

    Graham: I'm so sorry to hear that little Arion has to go.  It's sad how these things work out.  I'm sure Fantail would have suited you, but when I was selling you were still happy to keep your boat.  I hope you soon find a good owner for her and a suitable replacement.  It must be a bit stressful having the boat for sale and yet still feeling that you have more things you'd like to do with her.

  • 31 Mar 2018 11:10
    Reply # 6009060 on 6008936
    Gary Pick wrote:

    Graham what price are you chasing? I sometimes come across someone after a boat.


    I have the boat listed at $17,000 with the broker but will consider all offers.  Arion is not a bay cruising boat, it is a miniature expedition ship, heavily built and fitted out with all the gear including AIS and JSD.  The interior is a scruffy amateur fitout (but colourful, a friend said the boat looks like a French fishing boat from the 19th century on the outside, and a Filipino bar below!)  I wouldn't buy Arion if I was going to just sit on a mooring and go for occasional daysails, but for a youngish adventurer, seriously keen to cruise, whether coastal or transocean, it might be the bargain of the century.  I have spent over $120,000 on it, $25,000 in the last few years alone.  It needs someone willing to do lots of ongoing maintenance, like any older steel boat, that is the thing that will defeat me in coming years.  Although I had a good day today, and started thinking of how beautiful Great Keppell Island is!  A good week and I will be dangerous!  But whether I stay here, head north or south this winter, the boat will remain on the market, because I need a fibreglass boat for my old age!

    PS:  Hopefully, Gary, you can check it out for yourself if I manage to get into Moreton Bay later.


    Last modified: 01 Apr 2018 00:07 | Anonymous member
  • 31 Mar 2018 03:39
    Reply # 6008936 on 644008

    Graham what price are you chasing? I sometimes come across someone after a boat.

  • 28 Mar 2018 11:00
    Reply # 6003727 on 6003722
    Gary Pick wrote:

    Graham I have an eye operation sometime in the next 12 weeks and I will be out of action for at least a month after it apparently. So I hope when you get down to Moreton you hang around for a bit.:)


    Hi Gary.  Good luck with the eye op.  Long waiting lists in our hospitals!  I have no firm date for going anywhere at the moment, as I have been sick most of the summer, so have not done any work on Arion.  I need to slip first, which I hope will happen in May.  A friend is going to help but I need to be better than I currently am before working on the boat or sailing.  There are days when I would give the boat away for $5K or less, but I am hoping I make some sort of recovery when the cooler, drier weather arrives.  I seem to have lost my ability to cope with heat and humidity.  I have always loved the tropics.  But hopefully, if the boat does not sell, I will make it down there a couple of times this winter  I may only stay a month each time then come back here, but it is an easy daysail in the right weather into the bay and back.  I am dreaming of a glass boat for my final years but nobody is even looking at Arion.  I'll keep you posted!
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