Junk rig for Joe 17 trailer sailer

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  • 10 Jul 2017 14:13
    Reply # 4959184 on 4556642
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    you have done a superb job! Any pro would be content with that result.

    Two things:

    • I wonder if you could measure the actual camber in your sail, using the method shown on the photo below. Aiming for a given camber is one thing  -  hitting is another. Remember to subtract the thickness of the battens.
    • On the video clip where the sail is well reefed, I notice that the it has moved forward quite a bit. This leaves a protruding boom and sail bundle which sometimes like to catch the sheet above. To avoid this, just follow on with the Throat Hauling Parrel, as you ease the halyard. This way you can control the position of the reefed sail.
    Cheers, Arne

  • 10 Jul 2017 08:53
    Reply # 4958849 on 4556642
    A few more video clips of the rig here.

    Still very happy, but at the same time the hunger for a bit bigger boat and conversion is starting to become unbearable. I'm looking for a sturdy, seaworthy 20-22 ft boat and Ive set my eye on a few :)

    Last modified: 10 Jul 2017 08:55 | Anonymous member
  • 25 Jun 2017 16:02
    Reply # 4916714 on 4556642

    Congratulations Jami. I hope that I am not too far behind you! - rather slow progress for me but my rig is now progressing quite well and I hope to attach my tabernacle this coming week. I have enjoyed watching your video clips and looking at the picture of your sail. Happy sailing....

  • 15 Jun 2017 22:33
    Reply # 4902844 on 4902636
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    David Tyler wrote:

    When you said batten parrels, I think you meant to say sheetlets, Arne?

    Thank you, David, that was a serious senior moment! Better fix it  -  done...


  • 15 Jun 2017 21:03
    Reply # 4902636 on 4556642

    When you said batten parrels, I think you meant to say sheetlets, Arne?

  • 15 Jun 2017 16:19
    Reply # 4902020 on 4556642
    Anonymous member (Administrator)


    the wrinkles you mention are just smiling wrinkles, nicely distributed along the battens. I don’t think they do much harm, except in the eyes of very tidy minds. It is the big diagonal creases we want to avoid, in particular in light winds, as that is when we want maximum camber. Your sail looks smarter than most.

    I think the fact that you don’t need any HK parrels has much to do with that your sail is of fairly high AR, at least compared to most sails I have made for myself.  I found Broremann’s sail (AR=2.15) extremely forgiving in use. Your use of half-short battens parrels may also stabilise the sail a bit. Remember that the HK parrels were spotted on the fanned sails in Hong Kong, and the sails used there had extremely low AR.

    Getting the sheetlets right is to me the most time-consuming job, after the rig is operational. I generally make mine over-long and then shorten as much as I can to be able to sheet in the furled bundle. I don’t recon I can sheet in my furled bundle to the centre-line, as long as I use the space-demanding Johanna-style sheeting. However, I recon the Johanna-sheeting’s anti-twist properties to be so important that I rather sacrifice a bit easy handling with the sail lowered.

    On my new boat, Ingeborg, I quickly clamp the sheet bundle down onto the side deck after lowering the sail. This way I avoid the sheet flying around my ears (and tiller) as we are approaching the berth.


    I suggest you start with lengthening the lowest sheetlet; the one between the boom and the batten above it. The one between batten 3 and 4 (from top) may also need to be lengthened (check with only 4 panels set).


    Last modified: 16 Jun 2017 12:13 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 15 Jun 2017 09:32
    Reply # 4901499 on 4556642

    Another small video of the sail in lightish following wind here.

    The low evening ligth is merciless for the visibility of the wrinkles. However, I don't seem to have the big, diagonal ones despite the lack of  HK parrels and even the THP is slack.

    However, the leech of the lowest panel seems to act wrong: the battens come closer to each other than they should. Is one of the sheetlets (which one?) too short or is the sheeting point on the pulpit too high?

    Last modified: 15 Jun 2017 09:33 | Anonymous member
  • 11 Jun 2017 11:55
    Reply # 4891569 on 4556642

    A beautiful looking sail and a very fine video.  Thanks and Well Done.

  • 11 Jun 2017 08:26
    Reply # 4891445 on 4891296
    Annie Hill wrote:

    It's great that you sound really to have enjoyed that brief sail on a glorious 'white night' (do you usually wander around at three in the morning or could you simply not wait to try it out?!),

    I do love the light summer nights,  while sailing or living ashore. I always have - in fact, I don't like the sun at all. I prefer cloudy autumn weather over warm summer days any time :)

  • 11 Jun 2017 02:39
    Reply # 4891296 on 4556642

    The sail looks wonderful, Jami.  You seem to have done a very neat job of it and your hinge system looks great.  I can see it appealing to more people. 

    It's great that you sound really to have enjoyed that brief sail on a glorious 'white night' (do you usually wander around at three in the morning or could you simply not wait to try it out?!), and I think the little video is tremendously evocative and makes me want to get out and do likewise.

    Isn't it wonderful, that feeling of having actually made the sail yourself?  It really does add enormously to the pleasure of the whole thing.  I hope you have a huge amount of fun with your boat over the rest of the summer.

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