modifying a Sangria to junkrig

  • 22 Apr 2025 15:47
    Reply # 13490462 on 13487971

    Arne,

    I'll probably opt for the low version 9.31m  ( sail : AR 1.89 sqm  29.8m²)

    What type of mast should I choose? 

    wood ?

    alu ?

    hybrid : alu-wood ? I fear connexion 

    Carbon ( too expensive)

    Diameter ?

    Thanks for informations 

    Jacques 


  • 17 Apr 2025 15:24
    Reply # 13488558 on 13487971
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Jacques,
    Now, in the hope that the mast position can be accepted, I have drawn  a taller sail, taken from The Johanna 60 series of master sails, with AR = 1.98 (instead of the previous 1.89).This is about the tallest sail I dare to suggest. In case you will do most of your sailing, crossing oceans, I suggest you go for the lower version.

    Arne


    (..full size diagram under Arne's Sketches, Section 8 - 36...)

  • 17 Apr 2025 10:26
    Reply # 13488466 on 13487971

    Arne,

    Many thanks,

    File is very clear 

    Nevezadenn has  normal draft

    Next week : Il will take measurements on Nevezadenn.

    I will come back to you as soon as possible.

    Have a good day


  • 16 Apr 2025 18:21
    Reply # 13488191 on 13487971
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Now I had a go.
    Unfortunately, to get the CE where it was in the Bermudan rig, The mast had to move a bit further forward.
    The alternative would be to shorten the battens and make a taller sail, or even rake the mast forward.

    If you can live with the shown mast position, then this sail will be good. A slightly bigger version (B=4.90m) (almost the same...) of this sail is already in use on two other boats, Boudicca, and Ylvi.

    https://bit.ly/3GSvilq

    Arne


    (..full size sailplan in my album; Arne's Sketches, section 8 -35...)

    Last modified: 16 Apr 2025 20:52 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 16 Apr 2025 13:51
    Reply # 13488020 on 13487971

    Arne,

    Attached plan 

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  • 16 Apr 2025 11:21
    Reply # 13487984 on 13487971

    Arne , Sorry 

  • 16 Apr 2025 11:21
    Reply # 13487982 on 13487971

    Rane

    Thanks for informations , it's top.

    For hatch, i verifie and back to you 


  • 16 Apr 2025 10:33
    Reply # 13487978 on 13487971
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Jacques,
    That looks to be a very fine boat. A sloop junkrig of about 33sqm would have the same area as the original rig with the largest Genoa.

    The question is where to put the mast. Would it be acceptable to put it about 20cm forward of the hatch?

    Cheers,
    Arne

  • 16 Apr 2025 08:36
    Message # 13487971

    Hello,

    Do you have un example of a Sangria that  changed bermudan rig to a junk rig  ?

    Attached Photos and description ( in french)  

    Have a good day

    Jacques

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