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  • 20 May 2019 23:26
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    Anonymous wrote:
    Anon

    A life of high adventure and numerous circumnavigations followed Clive's building of the Wong, so I hope he has written something of this life.



    https://svseeker.com/nuthin_wong.htm    the last bit is telling, as is whole read

    OK, so one word (BOOZE) is all that needs to be written...Been a long time since I have seeen/heard about Clive and the Wong.Back in the 1980's some time was spent sketching lines with a view to him going junk rig on a steel boat.Pity that grog has had so much influence on things.

    Steel boats sure can be rough and gritty to handle and live with, but cutting and welding them to change the keel configuration is fairly practical.


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  • 20 May 2019 08:10
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    Anon

    A life of high adventure and numerous circumnavigations followed Clive's building of the Wong, so I hope he has written something of this life.



    https://svseeker.com/nuthin_wong.htm    the last bit is telling, as is whole read
  • 20 May 2019 02:11
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    www.leow.de-boatbarn-jrchli)should show a beautiful ferro Junk built by Capt Mike Briant.


    NOW THAT'S A BOAT!!!

    i think you just found my dream boat!

    wow, timber and salt and steel, i just cant really enjoy fiberglass, rubber duckies as i call em, i have been reading about ferro, a guy said his friend popped a hole hitting a jetty on its corner...i think i am back to steel. I am slightly paranoid, so id rather satisfy my paranoia than live in fear. but i like the idea of ferro, solid cool?, queit, plowing through waves, stable.....sinks like a rock....

    thanks for link

    (raven on deer is lateral thinking symbol)


    Andrew, you might do well to read Cruising As a A way of Life by Tom Colvin. Steel boats are his thing, with books to help others along.

    The boat you find to be your "dream boat" was completed by Mike after many years interest in Junks, starting when he observed them in the China sea from the bridge of a ship when he was in the  merchant marine service as an officer. He then had the Hong Kong Junk YIng Hong built for him, which he sailed to the West Indies, and then  sold there.

    Mike has to my knowledge not written any books, but he has told me that he has met Tom Colvin and has high regard for his design and knowledge.

    Sticking with steel, you should maybe do a google search for info on the Life of Clive Haman and his steel junk 'Nuthin Wong'.The Wong was built by Clive after he lost his ferro boat Cest La Vie on an Indian Ocean reef.

    A life of high adventure and numerous circumnavigations followed Clive's building of the Wong, so I hope he has written something of this life.

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  • 19 May 2019 13:08
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    Andrew wrote:

    does anyone have any further reading or experience they wish to impart to someone trying to buy a hull to convert?

    much appreciated.

    Andrew, I'm getting an impression that you'll need to learn to walk before you can learn to run.

    For recommended reading, have you got Voyaging on a Small Income, by our very own Annie Hill? Even if your income is not small, it's packed with good practical information on the voyaging life, choice of boat and much more, coming from someone who has had more experience of voyaging than most of us here.


    yes, I am planning ahead. I am looking for a hull between 35-45' ideally without masts, and want to spend the next year or so getting a simple robust rig together. also i am learning. i was sailing around Sydney headlands and harbor today in a 44 adams design. very much a novice yes, but planing ahead. i have annies book, and i even sent her an email, which she replied too. i think she is wonderful, and i have taken her advice onboard. i have even started eating beans!...i live in a tiny house as well, and it even has a marine toilet set up on 12v so im not far from a boat space wise. i am planning on doing as many courses as i can this next year, and getting my log book filled out, to try and aim for RYA or even icc if i can... as i dont want to leave without skills. but being over 6" and needing extra space for art, i cant fully buy into the small boat badger mentality. which is why I want a junk, as its the simplest and best for people like me, who dont want to be technical sailors, but want to travel. 
  • 19 May 2019 09:27
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    Andrew wrote:

    does anyone have any further reading or experience they wish to impart to someone trying to buy a hull to convert?

    much appreciated.

    Andrew, I'm getting an impression that you'll need to learn to walk before you can learn to run.

    For recommended reading, have you got Voyaging on a Small Income, by our very own Annie Hill? Even if your income is not small, it's packed with good practical information on the voyaging life, choice of boat and much more, coming from someone who has had more experience of voyaging than most of us here.
  • 19 May 2019 09:13
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    Just a small raised lookout like a miniature wheelhouse, not much bigger in area than a companionway hatch. Look for Mingming videos in youtube.

    But my preferred option is the Hasler pramhood, because although it's good to have your body inside in the warm, your eyes, ears and nose really ought to be outside. Look at Badger, a boat that has been to the Arctic and Antarctic.
  • 19 May 2019 08:58
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    a Mingming-style observation turret, with junk rig controls lead near them..
     a turrent, i dont want an air craft carrier! not sure what that is?
  • 19 May 2019 08:25
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    Andrew wrote:
    David wrote:

    https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/laurent-giles/229512

    Now you're on the right track. I believe this is the size and type that you should be looking for. Not too big, not too small, able to go anywhere, manageable by one person after conversion to JR schooner. At least worth inspecting.


    thanks, she seems like a beauty, the adams 45 does have a wheel house, for cold weather, how does one manage night time in winter in a cold ocean without being inside?

    By being tucked up in harbour, plugged into power, heater on!

    Seriously, it's good to be sailing at high latitudes in summer, and in temperate latitudes in winter, so long as you have a Hasler pramhood or a Mingming-style observation turret, with junk rig controls lead near them. I don't think a large wheelhouse gets you any advantages over those.
  • 18 May 2019 09:46
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    Anonymous wrote:

    https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/laurent-giles/229512

    Now you're on the right track. I believe this is the size and type that you should be looking for. Not too big, not too small, able to go anywhere, manageable by one person after conversion to JR schooner. At least worth inspecting.


    thanks, she seems like a beauty, the adams 45 does have a wheel house, for cold weather, how does one manage night time in winter in a cold ocean without being inside?
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  • 18 May 2019 09:39
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    www.leow.de-boatbarn-jrchli)should show a beautiful ferro Junk built by Capt Mike Briant.


    NOW THAT'S A BOAT!!!

    i think you just found my dream boat!

    wow, timber and salt and steel, i just cant really enjoy fiberglass, rubber duckies as i call em, i have been reading about ferro, a guy said his friend popped a hole hitting a jetty on its corner...i think i am back to steel. I am slightly paranoid, so id rather satisfy my paranoia than live in fear. but i like the idea of ferro, solid cool?, queit, plowing through waves, stable.....sinks like a rock....

    thanks for link

    (raven on deer is lateral thinking symbol)


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