Gallows and Crutches

  • 04 Aug 2012 01:13
    Reply # 1038182 on 1038150
    David Tyler wrote: This was an absolute boon on the last passage, when I had to lie a-hull for a few hours in 40 knots, but also when I had to lower the sail to tighten up the bolts at the aft ends of the battens, which were coming loose. 


    Did you not use Locktite on those bolts?
  • 03 Aug 2012 23:22
    Reply # 1038150 on 1011423
    Annie Hill wrote:David and I were talking about this topic just before he left.  In fact Tystie has a gallows of sorts - a U-shaped structure on the cabin top.  He lashes the sail to this at anchor, but the boom doesn't actually rest on it, so this also puts a bending pull at the top of the mast.  On Fantail I have no gallows and tie my sail off like Michael mentions.  On Badger, it was sufficient simply to haul hard on the sheets to keep the sails quiet at anchor - one of the advantages of a high-aspect ratio rig I guess - and although you could see a wee bend in the masts, it didn't seem to do them any harm.  Wood takes a lot of fatiguing and I don't think one should worry too much about it.

    To amplify a little:
    My upside-down 'U' gallows is smooth on the top, and has eyes underneath the top part of the 'U' where short lines are attached. I can stand in the hatch and tame a wildly thrashing sail bundle by throwing each line in turn over the top, and taking a turn around the gallows tube, tightening and tying eventually, so that there is a line holding the sail bundle securely to port and to starboard. This was an absolute boon on the last passage, when I had to lie a-hull for a few hours in 40 knots, but also when I had to lower the sail to tighten up the bolts at the aft ends of the battens, which were coming loose. I don't think I could have done this with diagonal ties down to deck cleats, the movement would have been too great. I think this is the only way to secure a big, heavy sail bundle, but diagonal lines down to the deck will certainly suffice for smaller rigs. I do not think it at all a good idea to have a gallows with a recess into which you are supposed to drop a wildly thrashing sail bundle at the moment that it passes overhead.  
    With the wingsails, I had double, port and starboard, sheeting, and this worked well for stabilising the (smaller) sail bundles.  Slatting around in a calm was more tolerable with these double sheets.
  • 26 Jul 2012 01:54
    Reply # 1019744 on 632604
    Deleted user
    To support the furled sails we use the Lazyjacks, but have the Lazyjacks adjusted just above over-engineered canopy supports made of galvanized pipe (I wonder if there is a nautical word for such a thing).  We can then lower the sails onto the supports for maintenance or during times we want to tie off the sail bundles. 
     
    I placed pictures here.  One shows the partially assembled mainsail set without the lateral supports. The other shows the foresail bundle close to the fore support.

    We tried wrapping the pipe with sisal to give it a nice look and for handgrips.  Mainsail one doubles as a gong support :)

    Next we plan on using galvanized pipe to make cross-members for extra lateral support
     

    Last modified: 26 Jul 2012 02:07 | Deleted user
  • 19 Jul 2012 11:33
    Reply # 1014316 on 1013750
    Annie Hill wrote:
    Anthony Cook wrote:A factor to consider is how easily you can see forward.  I almost always have the pram hood up,

    Maybe this is a silly question, but why don't you just lower the pram hood?
    It's a very good question, and I suppose the answer is 'pure idleness'...
  • 19 Jul 2012 01:49
    Reply # 1013750 on 1013623
    Anthony Cook wrote:A factor to consider is how easily you can see forward.  I almost always have the pram hood up,

    Maybe this is a silly question, but why don't you just lower the pram hood?
  • 18 Jul 2012 21:38
    Reply # 1013623 on 632604
    A factor to consider is how easily you can see forward.  I almost always have the pram hood up, and when threading through moorings and crowded harbours, this usually means standing up to steer, with one foot on a cockpit seat, the other on the tiller and clutching onto the end of the sail bundle to keep my balance.   At such times, knowing that the bundle is firmly bowsed down on the gallows, and will not move, is a great comfort!
  • 18 Jul 2012 20:34
    Reply # 1013558 on 632604
    Deleted user
    'Zuleika' with a 350 sq.ft. sail had a fine sturdy gallows.  This formed the front arch of the cockpit tent, and also the strong point to secure to when venturing forward in a seaway.
    With my new little Splinter and a 220sq.ft. sail I am pondering do I really need a similar gallows.  For the first season I am planning to go without, and see.  Much of the time 'Firebird' will be on a swinging mooring in Poole harbour, but I am hoping the relatively light bundle can be adequately secured amidships with restraining lines Port and Starboard.  I do not want the extra complexity of Running Lazy Jacks, and shall try to keep everything as simple as possible.  If necessary I might resort to a portable crutch.
  • 18 Jul 2012 00:26
    Reply # 1012434 on 632604
    Deleted user
    No gallows on Easy Go. We tie the sail bundles off to cleats to keep them from swaying around in rough anchorages. the tops of the masts bend a bit but if they cannot take a little bend at anchor what good are they in a real blow at sea. 

    I appreciate the support that crutches can give to the sail bundle but have not found the time or inclination to build them.
    Last modified: 19 Jul 2012 12:21 | Deleted user
  • 17 Jul 2012 11:55
    Reply # 1011918 on 632604
    I have had a handrail round the aft end of the cabin for many years now and it is high 
    enough not to bump your head in it and now with a junk rig I use it as gallows. It makes the moving from the cockpit to the foredeck so much safer and save the sprayhood from being torn that I would never want  to  be without it.
  • 17 Jul 2012 01:51
    Reply # 1011465 on 632604
    I agree.  My point is that if the sail can be tied off, you don't need a gallows.  Now a grab post is a different matter ...
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