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  • 27 Oct 2017 15:14
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    Yeah - I figured that's what y'all would say.  But... it's just such clever little boat, I find it difficult to resist trying to be even more cleverer-er.


    Hi Shemaya. It's good to hear from you.  Let's start that katabatic versus the Rice "cyclonic wind" thread.
  • 27 Oct 2017 01:47
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    I would so like to talk/hear more about those cyclonic winds and williwaws, having read Howard Rice's accounts. That would be quite off topic – perhaps worthy of another thread, if anybody else is interested in the subject?

    In the meantime, hi Scott! Nice to be in touch after all that fun at the New England Junket! I keep thinking about the split junk also, but confess that the more traditional version seems to fit the SCAMP better…

    Shemaya
  • 26 Oct 2017 20:48
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    KISS, Scott.  If a standard junk rig fits well, why make things difficult?

    Besides, you've yet to sail your split junk ;-)

    (PS Those cyclonic winds were, I'm afraid to say, just standard williwaws - a type of katabatic wind which has rightly scared the wits out of sailors in S Chile and Argentina since people first got there.)
  • 26 Oct 2017 18:42
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     I'm pretty sure you're right, David - There are a few designs out there, but I'm speaking of the split rig specifically.
  • 26 Oct 2017 17:01
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    I'm pretty sure I have already seen a junk rig design on a scamp. Not sure where but if I remember I will let you know. Might have been in Dinghy Cruising Association bulletin.
  • 26 Oct 2017 16:54
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    Dusting off this old thread.  

    I have a friend planning on building the SCAMP, and I've turned her head with discussions on the junk rig's merits.

    I'd tried my hand at overlaying my split junk plan form, with its ~30% balance, on the Scamp, but, reversing most conversion challenges, the existing mast placement is  too far forward.  And that little porch under the hard dodger really can't have the mast in the middle.

    One of Arne's plan forms would probably fit perfectly, but, for admittedly self serving reasons, I'd love to see a split rig on this delightful little boat.  Anybody want to take a crack at drawing it better?  A yawl seems too complicated for such a simple boat.  Of course Howard Rice did that and seemed to get around Tierra Del Fuego just fine until the cyclonic winds got him.


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  • 03 May 2011 14:11
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    Gary Pick wrote: Jeff, I think it would be a fun project to do...one day maybe, he said wistfully.

    Wistfully. Indeed. I've misplaced my creative energy someplace and find myself sitting on my tookus when I should be sawing and gluing on projects already underway. Beginning to seriously consider buying an existing boat. Even that is taking a great deal of time.
  • 03 May 2011 13:37
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    Jeff, I think it would be a fun project to do...one day maybe, he said wistfully.
  • 01 May 2011 13:02
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    Gary Pick wrote: I found this comment regarding a JR for this boat.

    "I hope to design and build my own junk rig of around 100 square feet. My Shellback is wonderful to sail with a 55 square foot junk rig. I'll need to add a removable boomkin, just like on my Shellback, about 4 feet to get the sheet at a good angle to manage the three or four sheetlets attached to the ends of each batten. My Shellback is 9 inches shorter, but about a quarter the weight and I pretty much lay down to sail it, keeping the balast (me) in the middle and low in the boat. Actually sailing from the bench with this Scamp is a big draw for me!

    Other than adding the removable boomkin, no changes to this awesome little ship are required. I've made dinghy junk rigs for 2 Joel White dinghy's and starting with an unstayed mast makes it very easy."
    http://smallcraftadvisor.com/message-board2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=148&start=10

    For those of you who have never seen a Scamp, it's a Welsford design done an cooperation with Small Craft Advisor magazine, (Small Craft Advisor Magazine Project =SCAMP) designed as the biggest boat you can build under 12'. It's a beautiful craft with a subtle Asian look to it, designed to carry a western lug rig, and a prime candidate for a junk rig conversion. Glad to see somebody has done it.
  • 01 May 2011 05:28
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    I found this comment regarding a JR for this boat.

    "I hope to design and build my own junk rig of around 100 square feet. My Shellback is wonderful to sail with a 55 square foot junk rig. I'll need to add a removable boomkin, just like on my Shellback, about 4 feet to get the sheet at a good angle to manage the three or four sheetlets attached to the ends of each batten. My Shellback is 9 inches shorter, but about a quarter the weight and I pretty much lay down to sail it, keeping the balast (me) in the middle and low in the boat. Actually sailing from the bench with this Scamp is a big draw for me!

    Other than adding the removable boomkin, no changes to this awesome little ship are required. I've made dinghy junk rigs for 2 Joel White dinghy's and starting with an unstayed mast makes it very easy."
    http://smallcraftadvisor.com/message-board2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=148&start=10
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