SibLim update

  • 05 Sep 2018 10:30
    Reply # 6654301 on 6650197

    The drawers were fitted with a back-end that extended down below the drawer bottom about 2"+ . A 1' hole was drilled in the centre of the extension and made slightly larger with a rat tail file.

    The front piece of the drawer, a cover, so to speak, was larger than the drawer itself. It extended well below the cabinet opening. A piece of wood, about 1/2" square,  was attached to the bottom of the drawer,  with a distance between the front slightly larger than the thickness of the cabinet frame. This made a slot to grasp the cabinet frame. The opening in the cabinet was enough to allow you to raise the drawer above the lip and slide out.

    A bulkhead made of 1/4" ply was installed in the cabinet, parallel to the cabinet front, at a distance maybe 1" beyond a drawer fully inserted. In that bulkhead were drilled for a 1" dowel, a hole for each drawer,  in line with the anchor point on the cabinet.

    Working from underneath, a dowel of appropriate length was inserted into the inside bulkhead. Holding the dowel with the left hand, a drawer was inserted into the cabinet front with the right. Simultaneously, the dowel was inserted into the drawer extension hole and brought to the cabinet front. A pre-drilled screw hole in the front permitted a screw to be fed into a pre-drilled hole in the dowel. The dowel is "free floating" except where attached to the cabinet front. While fitting the screw, it will be necessary to hold the drawer up and out for east access. Afterwards, the screw is invisible.

    You now have a captured drawer. It cannot fall out. Once in place, the substantial lip keeps the drawer from sliding open. I don't think I ever saw one open on its own. When pulled all the way out, you will have easy access to the drawer for cleaning.

    These drawers will occupy a little more space than those with runners.

    There are no slides or runners to jam. When fully out, one should be careful not to put excessive downward pressure on the drawer which could break off the drawer back.

    A finger-hole was drilled in the front of each drawer to lift and full the drawer.


     I just reread my description and realized I left out the inner bulkhead. Above is my edited version.
  • 03 Sep 2018 23:22
    Reply # 6651944 on 6650616
    Anonymous wrote:

     The problem with truly captive drawers, as you describe, Jim, is that they are awkward to remove for cleaning.  It sounds from your description as though they might be a bit greedy of space, too.

     Yes, they do take up more space than others. It's a cost benefit decision. As for cleaning, I didn't use mine enough to experience that. Still, they seemed accessible for me. If you want to do a really thorough job, it would take a only a few extra minutes, I would think. Something to do on the hook when its raining. :-)
  • 03 Sep 2018 21:58
    Reply # 6651824 on 4315719

    Hahaha!  Wonderful Bruno!  You are the best thing for brightening my day!!

  • 03 Sep 2018 15:24
    Reply # 6651396 on 4315719

    One suggestion about captive drawers !

  • 02 Sep 2018 22:13
    Reply # 6650616 on 4315719

    I'll probably be fitting a couple of athwartships drawers as well - I still need more, but they will have the usual wedge.  The problem with truly captive drawers, as you describe, Jim, is that they are awkward to remove for cleaning.  It sounds from your description as though they might be a bit greedy of space, too.  But I shall also have a mechanical means of keeping them in place, like those in the forecabin (which are opened much less frequently than those in the galley).

  • 02 Sep 2018 14:04
    Reply # 6650197 on 4315719

    Maybe this will help someone. We put 'thwart-ship drawers on Marco Polo/Teleport, using an idea from Lloyd Barkhouse in Chester NS. He came from a old family of wooden boat builders.

    The drawers were fitted with a back-end that extended down below the drawer bottom about 2"+ . A 1' hole was drilled in the centre of the extension and made slightly larger with a rat tail file.

    The front piece of the drawer extended well below the cabinet opening. A piece of wood was attached to the drawer, fore and aft with a distance between the front slightly larger than the thickness of the cabinet frame. This made a lip to grasp the cabinet frame. The opening in the cabinet was enough to allow you to raise the drawer above the lip and slide out.

    Working from underneath, the drawer was inserted into be cabinet full length. A piece of 1" dowel, a bit longer than the drawer,  was inserted into the drawer back and lifted up at the front to align with a pre-drilled screw hole made in the cabinet face. The drawer was lifted up and out a bit, to allow the insertion of a screw through the cabinet into the centre of the pre-drilled dowel.

    You now have a captured drawer. It cannot fall out. Once in place, the substantial lip keeps the drawer from sliding open. I don't think I ever saw one open on its own.

    Clear as mud?

  • 02 Sep 2018 07:58
    Reply # 6650055 on 4315719

    Phew! Drawers that run fore and aft, as they should on a well-ordered cruising boat. I remember sailing on a production boat in which you had to be very careful on starboard tack, or you'd be forever picking up the drawer contents off the cabin sole.

  • 02 Sep 2018 04:09
    Reply # 6649939 on 4315719
    I hope so, David, I hope so.  I've blogged again (and inserted the link, 'cos I got told off for not doing so last time!) and there are a few more pics, for those following progress.  I'm only to aware of the fact that in a week's time I will have been working three years on this boat, which is a sobering thought.
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  • 28 Aug 2018 10:50
    Reply # 6642190 on 4315719

    The amateur boatbuilder's dilemma: where to pitch the interior design between "a regular maiden's paradise" and the empty, noisy, dark, carbon fibre cavern to be found on some raceboats. The only certainty is that we need to end up with something that reflects our own personality and the way we sail - otherwise, what's the point? We may as well buy an off-the-shelf production boat, identical to hundreds of others. In those terms, SibLim is turning out well, and is going to be "one of the cleverest little ships imaginable".

  • 28 Aug 2018 08:38
    Reply # 6642099 on 4315719
    There are times when another description of Weston Martyr's haunts me.  From The Southseaman :

    "That cabin was got up regardless, with beautifully tinted flat-white paint, polished brass handles to all doors, silk curtains, soft cushions all over the place, a natty carpet and ingenious gadgets stuck about everywhere ... everything there, in fact, that the heart of a neat and tidy man could desire...

    "The inside of that boat, in fact, was a regular maiden's paradise; and as I sat on one of her brocaded settees, I tried hard to think of some plausible excuse which would enable me to shuffle out of that trip ..."

    To cut a long story short, he went out with the owner and the weather started to turn unpleasant.  The owner, deciding his boudoir would not be up to the anticipated rough and tumble, wanted to turn back, but Martyr decided that they should carry on and that it would be the making of his friend.  Well, the interior ended up in a right hurrah's nest, but the man was 'made' and the moral of the story ...

    Well, I'm afraid I like soft cushions on my berth - having lived 7 years with closed-cell foam - but I do draw the line at curtains.  It is difficult at times to make a boat practical, and comfortable, attractive and functional and to have a floating home, usually anchored, that is still completely seaworthy.

    Give me a few years and I'll tell you if I've succeeded.

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