Dinghy junk rig conversion

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  • 09 Jun 2016 19:29
    Reply # 4066289 on 4063784

    Could you tell me the size and material of the yard on Broremann?

    I can see that the batterns are (mostly) 16mm/1.5mm Al tube. Have these been ok?

    Is there an advantage in designing for a smaller sail area, or should I just go for the biggest sail that will fit & look ok, planning on reefing in anything other than a light breeze?

    Thanks

  • 09 Jun 2016 18:28
    Reply # 4066244 on 4063784

    Yes, it is. In big rigs, anyway. It may not make too much difference in a dinghy rig, where the loads are light, except that on a run the rudder will be more loaded, but that can be addressed by moving crew weight to weather.

  • 09 Jun 2016 16:18
    Reply # 4065949 on 4063784
    Thanks – those articles are very useful.

    I think the main difference is that my boat has the mast step near the bow, which forces a low aspect ratio sail to get the CoE in the right place. Is a high aspect ratio sail easier to handle?

  • 08 Jun 2016 17:38
    Reply # 4064113 on 4063784
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Martin
    I once had an Oslo dinghy which I fitted with a junk rig. I wrote two little articles about it, the first here, and the second here. In addition, if you go to Youtube and search for "Broremann", you will find a short clip of her sailing.  That sail had a quite high AR, since there was a boyancy tank under the fore deck which forced the mast aft. You may well make a lower AR rig.

    Hope some of it makes sense.

    Cheers, Arne

  • 08 Jun 2016 13:46
    Message # 4063784
    Hi,

    I'm converting a GRP 'clinker' dinghy to junk rig and would welcome any advice.

    The dinghy was apparently custom made for its original owner, but I suspect that any design was on the back of an envelope - the best example of which was the original rudder only just touched the water! (She now has a new rudder, made over the winter.)

    The original rig is a standing lug, but this doesn't work well:

    • The spars (yard, boom) are heavy and dangerous when hoisting and make the boat less stable than I’d like (I want to take small children out in it);

    • The aspect ratio is less than one and the sail is cut flat, so windward performance isn't great;

    • With the boom off (giving a curve in the sail) it goes to windward quite well on one tack; on the other tack it just goes downwind.

    The overall aim is to end up with something that is:

    • Fun to sail;

    • Safe to take small children out in;

    • Not too hard to build – this is a first project;

    • Low hassle - quick to launch, easy to dismantle.

    Naturally a junk rig seemed the obvious choice, with the caveat of keeping weight aloft to a minimum.

    I’ve uploaded my current rough drawing.

    The original mast is fairly short, so the drawing shows a replacement – an extremely light alloy mast from a windsurfer, 1.2mm wall, base 53mm diameter, top section tapered. I have my qualms as to whether it will be strong enough but it was very cheap so we’ll see… The original mast position is well forward so the key issue is getting the centre of effort far enough back to suit the centre board, which necessitates a large chord. The CoE is probably still a bit far forward – comments welcome. Possibly the sail is a bit big given the objectives? The design is based on Arne’s notes, for which I am very grateful.

    The first sail might end up being a 200g/sqm polytarp as per this reference: http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/06/howto/junkrig/; ideally I’d use something like this given enough time: http://www.ripstopshop.co.uk/PBSCCatalog.asp?ItmID=10448738

    Anything I need to change? I think my next task is to make up a dummy sail with garden cane and string to see how it hoists and furls (a full-sized model).

    Thanks in advance for your comments.

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