Cockpit line bags

  • 04 Mar 2016 01:07
    Reply # 3859802 on 3853549
    I use rope bags and they work well for me. All lines for the forsail come down to the port bag and for the main to the starboard bag. The bags are split into two compartments. The sheet is by it's self in one compartment and the halyard, YHP and other parrels go into the other. I've had no tangling issues whats soever. See:

    Line storage

    Portbags

    Starboard bags

    They are made from Mustang with mesh bottoms and a plastic insert to hold the top opening open.


  • 03 Mar 2016 18:48
    Reply # 3859211 on 3853549
    Deleted user

    Footprints has a large canvas bag for her mainsheet with the opening of the bag tied off at several points to keep it open. I flake the sheet into the bag so it comes out without tangling. I used to coil the sheet but it always tangled. This bag keeps the long length of sheet nicely contained.

  • 03 Mar 2016 17:32
    Reply # 3859082 on 3853549
    Deleted user

    Thank you for the thoughts. Where they go in the cockpit isn't suitable for boxes, so I'll have to see how reclining on them works. The original Freedom design involved hook+bungee line hangers in the same spot, and all the lines led through rope clutches.

    They didn't work very well with the long halyards and sheets of my new junk rig....so I took them down and patched and faired the screw holes leftover when I did the hard dodger. I figured I could replace them, or make line bags, and think I will do just that. Now my plan is to make individual bags/pockets for each multi-part halyard or sheet, and make one or two pockets for the other shorter tails to share.

    Hanging or wrapping them on cleats or winches would be a great solution except that the winches are shared and everything goes to a rope clutch or cam cleat, which don't make good hangers.


  • 01 Mar 2016 21:45
    Reply # 3853874 on 3853549

    Arion has the sheet (only one) and the halyard flaked down into black plastic boxes at the forward end of the cockpit seats, under the hard dodger, since I am a lazy guy and that was a quick and dirty solution.  The parrels and lazy-jack tails are quite short and are just coiled on individual cleats mounted vertically on the aft bulkhead of the coachroof.  The halyard and the sheet, at least, need their own storage bags/boxes.

  • 01 Mar 2016 21:25
    Reply # 3853839 on 3853549
    Hi Barry

    Welcome back!  Personally - and I know lots of people would disagree - I find the bags less than satisfactory and an uncomfortable backrest.  I prefer to build in boxes for them - the lid can provide a seat, or use baskets.  Each to his own of course, and just my ideas.

    I've usually found that only the sheet and halyard need a proper home.  Most of the other lines, even when the sail is down, aren't that long.  In harbour they can be coiled down round the winch, out of the way; in use they should be able to sit as a coil on their cleat.

    I wouldn't recommend putting more than one (long) line in each bag - they are sure to tangle up, but the tail end of the short ones could probably go in.

    Just my two penn'orth!

  • 01 Mar 2016 18:31
    Reply # 3853551 on 3853549
    Deleted user

    Oh yeah, Hi, everybody! I've been away from sail projects for a while and finally made it back here, sorted out my membership, and am trying to remember how to do things like upload pictures and include them here. Dunno why this one is upside down, but it is a start!

    http://www.junkrigassociation.org/resources/SiteAlbums/1401723/preview/image.jpeg

    Pic of the cockpit showing more-or-less where the line bags need to go and some of the lines that will go in them.

  • 01 Mar 2016 18:27
    Message # 3853549
    Deleted user

    Flutterby has all her lines led back to winches behind my new hard dodger, and there used to be individual line hangers. I took those off when I was repainting the area around the dodger, and plan to make some bags to hold the lines instead.

    Port of the companionway has two 3:1 halyards, two spare 1:1 halyards, two yard hauling parrels, and I've got rope clutches for a pair of luff or throat hauling parrels. LOTS of string to put away there.

    Starboard has the main sheet, soon-to-be rigged downhaul parrels, and the centerboard pennant, and instruments that I don't want to cover.

    I expect to lean back against them as a cushion, given where they are. Anybody who has done this kind of thing got advice for me on patterns (probably not needed), construction, size, etc?

    One question I'm wondering about is whether stuffing a bunch of lines in the same bag causes problems. Is it better to make a separate pocket for each line? Or will two or three share gracefully?

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