Hammock Strung on the Diagonal

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  • 29 Oct 2015 19:38
    Reply # 3606456 on 3598542

    Perhaps the reason for the hammock and the beanbag both being found to be comfortable is that they both conform to the body shape, and thus prevent rolling to and fro, as the vessel rolls. This is certainly why a standard seaberth, with leecloth or leeboard, should be narrow; and I lie in the angle between settee cushion and backrest, with my knees braced against the leecloth, in rough weather, to prevent rolling across the cushion.

    It occurs to me that memory foam might give a similar effect. Has anyone tried it?

  • 29 Oct 2015 13:00
    Reply # 3605728 on 3605705
    Peter Scandling wrote:

    Perhaps this is why the bean bag was so comfortable.  I just put it on the cabin sole.


    Do you remember it's dimensions? Was it circular, rectangular ....?
  • 29 Oct 2015 12:37
    Reply # 3605705 on 3599538
    David Tyler wrote:

    I think that the best rest is obtained when the body, and especially the head, is as near as possible to the centre of pitch and roll, which is very low down, on the centreline and just aft of amidships.

    Difficult to imagine a hammock slung there! 

    Perhaps this is why the bean bag was so comfortable.  I just put it on the cabin sole.


  • 29 Oct 2015 10:45
    Reply # 3605615 on 3599117
    Peter Scandling wrote:

    I have experienced a hammock at sea and highly recommend it if you've got space.

    The thing of it is, one has to try these ideas to see how they work in practice. And experience will vary with each boat. Yes, the closer to the midpoint of rotation, the better. The unique feature I see is the diagonal setup. It will swing no matter what the motion but the orientation will have a dampening effect. My personal experience with it was on a square-rigger and we were slung from the underside of the weather deck, above the centre of rotation.

    As for getting around it, a person on watch in my boat at least, will have access to head, chart table and galley without passing by the hammock. And, as I visualize it, getting by is just a matter of sitting on the bunk and sliding forward.

    I don't see it as a normal everyday setup, where Annie's is the usual, but on a heavy weather, long-leg passage, to provide the person off watch some relief from the motion, especially if they are seasick of just ill from other causes.

    That said, the "coffin" berth sounds like a better solution.


  • 26 Oct 2015 11:20
    Reply # 3600310 on 3598542

    Bonjour

    In France we have, especially on small boats, a type of berth called Couchette cerceuil (coffin berth).  They are square tubes that run under the cockpit banks; there is even a lid. Only the head of the man exits the berth. They are not easy to enter but very confortable at sea.

    Eric

    PS : A coffin should be screwed; not nailed!

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  • 26 Oct 2015 00:35
    Reply # 3599762 on 3598542

    That's exactly right, Arne, because the tighter the fit, the better! 

  • 25 Oct 2015 22:57
    Reply # 3599685 on 3598542
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    ...so a wellpadded coffin (no lid, please), nailed to the cabin sole, seems to be the ultimate sea-berth then?...

    ..whooops...

     

  • 25 Oct 2015 20:07
    Reply # 3599538 on 3598542

    I tried a hammock, slung close up under my pramhood, so that I could just raise myself up, open one eye to look around, and go back to cat-napping. It was a complete flop. Being so high up above the centre of pitch and roll, I could get no rest at all. 

    I think that the best rest is obtained when the body, and especially the head, is as near as possible to the centre of pitch and roll, which is very low down, on the centreline and just aft of amidships.

    Difficult to imagine a hammock slung there! 

  • 25 Oct 2015 11:29
    Reply # 3599117 on 3598542

    Jim

    I have experienced a hammock at sea and highly recommend it if you've got space.

     However, on my last ocean passage I had something of a eureka moment.  The owner had left a waterproof bean bag on board.   This proved to be incredibly comfortable at all times.  It's the most comfortable I've been when on passage.  It provided plenty of support, and could easily be moved depending on the tack.  But again the perfect boat would have a flat area to locate this.  Most cruising boats would be able to be set up for this.

    As Annie says, a good old fashioned lee cloth is usually the best answer.

    Peter

  • 25 Oct 2015 00:57
    Reply # 3598824 on 3598542
    I would guess it would rather depend on the size of the saloon!  Whether the on watch person would enjoy having to duck and dive around such a hammock is pretty moot. 


    I reckon a good leecloth, which comes out from under the cushion and is secured outboard (which allows you to pull the whole cushion up from the horizontal) makes for a pretty good seaberth.  You need three lines for it, one at each end and one in the middle, the latter secured to a fairly high point somewhat outboard of the berth, so that in a knockdown, it keeps the occupant in place. 
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