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Attaching lazyjacks and mast lift to masthead

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  • 15 Jul 2015 07:14
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    Jonathan Snodgrass wrote:
    anthony swanston wrote:

    The simpler the better every time, bowline or round turn; just sew it in... 


    " ... just sew it in..."  

    Or use a zip tie instead of sewing it in?  (With UV degradation and chafe maybe not a permanent method but perhaps a good immediate and temporary method.) 


    Very temporary.  And I don't like temporary at the top of my mast.  In an emergency use a zip tie for a quick fix.  But use a black one.  The UV takes longer to kill it.
  • 10 Jul 2015 16:33
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    Soft Shackles....   There is a good write-up here.  http://l-36.com/soft_shackles.php?menu=4.  There was also a extensive discussion on Sailinganarchy.com at. http://www.junkrigassociation.org/technical_forum/3414759/NewMessage#3429169 , but it is LONG...

    Erik
  • 10 Jul 2015 15:27
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    anthony swanston wrote:

    The simpler the better every time, bowline or round turn; just sew it in... 


    " ... just sew it in..."  

    Or use a zip tie instead of sewing it in?  (With UV degradation and chafe maybe not a permanent method but perhaps a good immediate and temporary method.) 
  • 10 Jul 2015 10:38
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    Barry Stellrecht wrote:If you are interested, I'll dig up instructions on how to make the soft shackles....I absolutely LOVE them, even if this isn't a necessary application for them.
    Absolutely, Barry.  Put them in your profile, or, better still, send them to Lynda to include in the next magazine.  I think the idea of replacing metal with rope would appeal to most junkies.
  • 06 Jul 2015 17:18
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    I did mine with spliced eyes on the lazy jacks and mast lift, then made soft shackles from spectra/dyneema to attach the eyes to my eyebolts.

    A lot more work than the scaffold knot, but I'm happy with it. If you are interested, I'll dig up instructions on how to make the soft shackles....I absolutely LOVE them, even if this isn't a necessary application for them.
  • 05 Jul 2015 00:36
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    By taking two turns you will reduce chafe at a place where chafe is hard to see.

    I would only use a scaffold hitch when splinting a broken limb.

    A halyard hitch is almost impossible to untie at the masthead; you could get the same problem with a buntline hitch but this is what I use on my standing parrels, but I can get at these at deck level.

    The simpler the better every time, bowline or round turn; just sew it in... 
  • 02 Jul 2015 11:28
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    Many thanks for the tips. I've just tried the scaffold hitch on the U bolts and it looks like the ideal knot for the job. Would there be any advantage to taking two turns around the U bolt before forming the knot rather than one turn as shown in David Tyler's photos?
  • 02 Jul 2015 07:07
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    I agree about the scaffold hitch, which I now use regularly. However, back to the topic of lazyjacks, I prefer to use the method described in PJR. There the port and sb. topping lift is held together on the frontside of the mast and splits just to get clear of the yard. This both offloads the mast top a bit and brings the topping lift a bit forward to minimise the chance of trapping the yard forward of it when deeply reefed.  You can see what I mean on page 4 of this write-up about lazyjacks.

    Cheers, Arne

     
  • 02 Jul 2015 04:46
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    Annie Hill wrote:Personally, I'd go for a scaffold hitch - David Tyler's favourite bend, illustrated in his Profile.  It pulls up snug and will never chafe.  A buntline or halyard hitch would also do the job well.  If you don't know how to tie the latter this link will tell you how.  (A fantastic little app is available to put on your smartphone!)

    I agree with Annie on this one. David Tyler showed me the scaffold hitch and now I have used it for all the semi permanent rope connections on my rig. A bowline is a good high strength knot for things that need to be undone on a regular basis but for rigging applications the scaffold hitch is more compact and more secure.
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  • 01 Jul 2015 23:28
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    Personally, I'd go for a scaffold hitch - David Tyler's favourite bend, illustrated in his Profile.  It pulls up snug and will never chafe.  A buntline or halyard hitch would also do the job well.  If you don't know how to tie the latter this link will tell you how.  (A fantastic little app is available to put on your smartphone!)
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