Where do you put your steaming light?

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  • 17 Aug 2016 22:55
    Reply # 4198052 on 4196201
    Darren Bos wrote:

    Graham, I think my arrangement will be very similar to yours, except for the steaming light.  If I understand correctly yours is mounted on the pulpit?  Do you have it on staff to meet the requirement that it be at least one metre above the other running lights?


    Yes, it is on a 2m pole, that is easily removed and stowed, with an electric cable that plugs into a socket below decks.  It is also my anchor light. I have a separate stern light on the pushpit.
  • 17 Aug 2016 18:05
    Reply # 4197676 on 3077601

    Rather than continuing to guess at whether my deck level anchor light was compliant with Colregs, I did what I should have done long ago, read the actual regulations.  Annex I is full of interesting stuff, but pertinent to the anchor light down low is Annex I 9.b.i and ii:

    (b) (i) All-round lights shall be so located as not to be obscured by masts, topmasts or structures within angular sectors of more than 6°, except anchor lights prescribed in Rule 30, which need not be placed at an impracticable height above the hull. (ii) If it is impracticable to comply with paragraph (b)(i) of this section by exhibiting only one all-round light, two all-round lights shall be used suitably positioned or screened so that they appear, as far as practicable, as one light at a distance of one mile. 

    On a small boat, most lighting arrangements of sufficient intensity would seem to meet these criteria.  Out of interest, I drew out what angular sectors my masts would block and placing the light near the stern of the boat is the only location that would block less than 6° (although if I read the reg properly the the 6° rule is flexible for anchor lights).  If anyone else is interested in such minutia, I made another diagram for various mast sizes showing how far away an ARW light has to be from a mast to have less than 6° obscured.

  • 17 Aug 2016 15:19
    Reply # 4197056 on 3077601

    I've included Colreg 30 below.  As I read it, for a boat under 50 meters, you can put the anchor light wherever you think it can best be seen (although I have also worried if my lower light would count as ARW given that is blocked by the masts at certain angles).  Further, part C suggests that even if you are using an ARW at the top of the mast, there is no reason you cannot add additional lights down low to help improve visibility.

    Rule 30

    Anchored Vessels and Vessels Aground

    (a) A vessel at anchor shall exhibit where it can best be seen:

    • (i) in the fore part, an all-round white light or one ball;
    • (ii) at or near the stern and at a lower level than the light prescribed in subparagraph (i), an all-round white light.

    (b) A vessel of less than 50 meters in length may exhibit an all-round white light where it can best be seen instead of the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) of this Rule.

    (c) A vessel at anchor may, and a vessel of 100 meters and more in length shall, also use the available working or equivalent lights to illuminate her decks.

    (d) A vessel aground shall exhibit the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) or (b) of this Rule and in addition, where they can best be seen;

    • (i) two all-round red lights in a vertical line;
    • (ii) three balls in a vertical line.

    (e) A vessel of less than 7 meters in length, when at anchor not in or near a narrow channel, fairway or where other vessels normally navigate, shall not be required to exhibit the shape prescribed in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this Rule.

    (f) A vessel of less than 12 meters in length, when aground, shall not be required to exhibit the lights or shapes prescribed in subparagraphs (d)(i) and (ii) of this Rule.


  • 17 Aug 2016 11:38
    Reply # 4196644 on 3077601

    I share Annie's preference for a riding light displayed in the fore part of the vessel, not more than 20 feet above the deck, as stipulated in the colregs. But this would place mine in between the two masts, both of which are 8.75'' diameter and obscure it both from ahead and astern. The glow of my bright LED lantern reflected on the masts is visible from close to but does not comply with the legal requirement for an all-round light. An insurance company might use this to its advantage following a claim.

    As for the difficulty in gauging distance Annie describes, I think the appearance of the masthead light's reflection in the water gives a good indication of how far off it is.

    I use an all round white at the masthead as a combined steaming and stern light when under power. A stern mounted stern light is also lit, either under sail with the tricolour at the masthead or under power with the sail set and obscuring the masthead light from astern.


  • 17 Aug 2016 10:17
    Reply # 4196606 on 3077601

    Just goes to show: we all perceive things differently in our minds, no matter what our eyes actually see. I have no difficulty in distinguishing between an ARW and a star or planet. However, I do like to have a deck light that illuminates the rig. Not only is it useful when sailing on  a dark night, it enables me to distinguish my boat from others in a crowded anchorage when returning from a bibulous evening. (That's as well as a legal ARW anchor light "in the fore part of the vessel where it may best be seen").

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  • 17 Aug 2016 04:00
    Reply # 4196201 on 3077601

    Thanks everyone, 

    I should have been more detailed, but I often feel my posts are a bit on the long side...

    Annie, we do have another anchor light that is mounted lower and is plugged in to a deck socket.  The masthead anchor light would just be used in those times when I feel it would be better to be visible from a distance.  Also, the LunaSea light I'm considering for the job comes with the anchor light integral to the tricolour.

    Bryan, that's another good argument for having an anchor light down low.  Our lower running lights are all incandescent and I was debating whether or not to change them to LED.  I think we'll mostly use them when motoring, so for now they'll stay as incandescent bulbs.

    Graham, I think my arrangement will be very similar to yours, except for the steaming light.  If I understand correctly yours is mounted on the pulpit?  Do you have it on staff to meet the requirement that it be at least one metre above the other running lights?


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  • 16 Aug 2016 23:09
    Reply # 4195899 on 3077601

    Arion's very bright LED anchor light is on a portable pole that I mount on the aft rail.  The light is about 3m above deck and not only is it highly visible all round, it illuminates the deck, which helps other vessels to see us.  When I have been rowing back to Arion at night i can see the boat very clearly from some distance, usually much easier than I can see other yachts moored nearby.  It did fail me once on Sydney Harbour when a rowing scull collided with me just before dawn.  I was anchored near a brightly lit ferry wharf and the anchor light blended into the background lights.  Added to that, I suspect the young sculler wasn't looking over his shoulder that often.  He knew where the local moored boats were and was not expecting a ring-in, despite it being a designated anchorage.  We both learned something that night and I try to avoid background lights now, if possible (avoiding Sydney Harbour is a good start!).

    My LED running lights are on the pulpit and pushpit, which I prefer to a masthead light for inshore work.  The port and starboard lights are separated by a couple of feet and have sideboards to keep them distinct.  Combined lights can cause confusion.  When seen from directly ahead, there is a narrow band of indistinct light, often showing up as yellowy orange.  A masthead tricolour is excellent offshore though.  I don't have one these days, as I did not want to run cables up the mast.

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  • 16 Aug 2016 22:52
    Reply # 4195891 on 3077601
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    I am colourblind, as are 10% of New Zealand males. For us, the most difficult colours to distinguish are red and green, and the smaller the source of light, the more difficult those colours are to distinguish. As an example, traffic lights do not change colour for us. We use different cues.

    In the days of incandescent bulbs, the slight yellow tinge of 'white' lights were a useful ally in night navigation. Nowadays, LEDs have added to the challenge. I've approached the entrance to Whangarei Harbour on a busy starry night and been utterly confounded, completely unable to distinguish yachts, channel markers and background urban lights and road traffic until I could see their structures. The only objects I could identify with certainty were power boats because their lights are close to water level. I can't stress enough the difference that light height makes for me. For many of us there are times when it is the only usable clue. 

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  • 16 Aug 2016 21:57
    Reply # 4195818 on 4195711
    Darren Bos wrote:Reading through this fairly comprehensive thread has me wondering if my plan for reworking my nav lights is correct. I already have port and starboard running lights on the pilothouse as well as a stern light that I will mount on an arch above the wind vane.  My plan was to add a masthead steaming light to the top of the foremast and a combined tricolor-anchor light to the mainmast.  Under power I would use the the steaming light atop the foremast with the deck-level running and stern lights.  What has me wondering is that David Webb was the only one who posted a similar solution and he put the masthead light partway down the mast.  There are a lot of two-masted Junk rigged boats, so I was wondering why I hadn't seen this solution in my searches of the JRA.  Have I missed something?  By my reading, I think this should comply with ColReg rule 23.
    Your masthead steaming light should be fine.  However, I couldn't disagree more with your suggestion about a masthead, all round white light.  They may have changed, but the col regs used to say 'a white light in the forepart of the vessel where it can be seen from all round'.  The mast head isn't the forepart of the vessel.  However far more important are the points
    • you are trying to assist other mariners locate your boat when they come into a crowded anchorage and want to find somewhere for themselves
    • LED masthead lights are very similar in colour to stars
    • masthead lights vary in brightness, so that it is difficult to asses how far away they are
    • it is impossible to decide whether a masthead light is on a short mast close to or a tall one further away, especially when there are a lot of yachts in the anchorage

    Assuming you are using an anchor light out of courtesy, rather than in order to by strictly legal, I suggest you should have it somewhere like the pulpit (if you have such a thing).  Even the stern rail (again, if you have such a thing) is better, because at least it is at eye height. As long as it is above the superstructure but below the sails, it should be readily visible.  Again, when using this light to assist other sailors locate your boat, rather than to be strictly legal, it does not necessarily have to have 2 mile visibility.  You can leave your all round white light on for that, if it makes you feel better, but please have an anchor light somewhere round eye height to make life easier for your fellow sailors.

  • 16 Aug 2016 20:56
    Reply # 4195751 on 3077601

    Sounds like a good plan to me, Darren. I think you'll be legal.

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