Mast bend

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  • 16 Jul 2017 09:48
    Reply # 4978419 on 4978414
    Anonymous
    If anyone notices that a link does not function I would be grateful if they would draw my attention to it, so that I can fix it.

    Arne, you have noticed that links often fail to work - and that several of that FAQ links don't work. It would be very helpful if you pointed out which ones. We have many pages of FAQs with many links on most, and I'm afraid that right now I don't have the time to trawl through testing them all.

    Chris

  • 16 Jul 2017 09:16
    Reply # 4978414 on 3049188
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    It appears that several of the FAQ links do not work. I have noticed that internal links often die after an upgrade of the WA, so I guess the webmaster will have to bring them back to life.

    Arne

  • 16 Jul 2017 01:01
    Reply # 4978204 on 3049188

    Hi Mark,  I looked at your profile, but you haven't entered any of the boat's data, so I can't see what the dimensions of the mast are.  However, the boat is the best part of 40 years old and sailed, I assume, from England to Vilamoura in Portugal and has presumably done something other than sit there since then.  that being so, I think it's fair to say that the mast has something of a track record.

    I personally find that alloy masts do tend to bend rather alarmingly, compared with wooden one, but those who have them seem to get used to them.  Some Needlespar masts have had issues after many years of use, as you will see if you explore the website, but they appear to be the exception rather than the norm.

    My feeling would be that the mast has stood the test of time and to carry on sailing with it. And, at the end of the day, replacing it with something rather more substantial isn't such a big deal  - and I believe alloy lamp posts are quite affordable in Europe.  To reassure yourself, you might want to have a look at the FAQs on masts or at our mast data base, which you can find here.  There is a wealth of information on the website and it's worth taking the time to explore it.

  • 15 Jul 2017 14:40
    Reply # 4977690 on 3049188
    Anonymous

    Hi All

     I am now sailing Stalemate, the Westerly Konsort that appeared on this site in October last year in the for sale section. She was fitted out from new as a Junk rig and has a flat 50m2 sail made from circa 3.5 oz dacron.  She still has the origional sail fitted when built in 1980.  Dick, the chap that fitted her out, was an extremely competant man and I would trust his calculations and judgement. I cannot ask his opinion as unfortunately he passed away last year.

      The mast flexes whilst sailing which I find a bit alarming as to date we have only sailed 146NM on her.  Can I assume from the comments that this is quite normal for a junk rig? I have sailed Bermudan rigs thus far and am used to mast bend but this feels odd.

    Regards

    Mark

  • 27 Jul 2014 06:20
    Reply # 3055289 on 3049188
    I hope it helps!  Good luck.
  • 26 Jul 2014 19:01
    Reply # 3055161 on 3049188
    Deleted user

    Hi All,

    Thank you again for the notes. Annie, I do not have yard hauling parrel. I just read the section in PJR and will install today. Wonderful. Thank you. This makes sense to pull in closer to mast. Thank you.

    Super weekend to you all. Cheers, Ben

  • 23 Jul 2014 06:13
    Reply # 3050972 on 3049188

    Ben

    It sounds like the weight of the sail resting upon the lazyjacks is causing mast bend at the top of the mast.  When alongside do you use a boom crutch?   This will help to relieve the loads.  When out sailing you can either live with it or strengthen the top section with GRP uni's or similar. 

    Of course building a new mast is the ultimate solution! 

    Cheers

    Peter 

  • 22 Jul 2014 01:42
    Reply # 3050001 on 3049437
    Benjamin Luna wrote:I am thinking of lengthening the parrels so that the center of the yard is not so far aft.

    I assume you have a yard hauling parrel?
  • 21 Jul 2014 07:39
    Reply # 3049437 on 3049188
    Deleted user

    Dear Annie and Paul,

    Thank you for the replies. I will give it a go without the forestay. The mast is wood and tapers quite a bit at the top. I apologize that I do not know about scantlings ... I will try to figure out that comparison. Interestingly, the mast bends the most when reefed and least when I have full sail. I am thinking of lengthening the parrels so that the center of the yard is not so far aft.

    I appreciate your comments. All the best! Ben

  • 21 Jul 2014 06:06
    Reply # 3049393 on 3049188

    I don't quite agree with Paul's comments.  Needlespar masts are well-known for being rather whippy and many junkies find this disconcerting and don't want a mast bending when they are trying to make to windward in heavy conditions.

    I suspect that your mast is possibly a little bit dainty - have you compared its scantlings with those recommended in PJR?  For what it's worth, the mast on my 26ft boat bends hardly at all.  On the other hand, you could be putting in a bit of curvature by bowsing down the sail with the sheets, when in harbour, to stop the sail swinging about.  Is the mast stiff with the sail well reefed?  If that is so, you probably don't need to worry about the fact that just the top of the mast is bending - you only have sail up there in light airs, anyway. 

    I entirely agree with Paul that you should probably get rid of the rope forestay.  Al that it is doing is putting compression loads on the mast, which you certainly do not need.

    You don't mention how the mast is built.  If it's a wooden one, you might find you can stiffen it up by adding some undirectional glass tape and epoxy, if you find the flexing too hard to live with.

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