Aluminum light poles for masts

  • 22 Jun 2014 20:21
    Reply # 3019505 on 3018457
    Deleted user
    Everything helps....thank you everyone. There are many manufacturers of aluminum light poles in the USA. I have been researching them and have even found companies that offer "hurricane" rated models. If you are intetested look at www.lightmart.com for more information. The pole already has a welded on four bolt base for mounting that should be easy enough to fabricate a mast step to match. It appears the wiring could exit the mast out the bottom without adding holes. There are natural and anodised finishes available at no extra charge. There are three or four wall thicknesses available for each length. I have noticed different surface textures as I have looked at poles everywhere. One surface is an abrasive looking brushed surface that would not be ideal. I agree the anodised version seems most suitable. Its just a thought but maybe in the future JRA members in England could place a group order and have them shipped in a 40 foot shipping container. It may be cost effective as a group. These poles appear to be high quality and at a reasonable price.
    Last modified: 22 Jun 2014 20:22 | Deleted user
  • 22 Jun 2014 17:37
    Reply # 3019283 on 3018457
    Ben wrote:Where can I locate how to determine proper wall thickness and base dia. etc for an aluminum light pole mast? I would like to hear pros/cons of using them as a mast, past failures, masthead fittings, welding, raw surface or painted, design issues, I wish I would have.....etc.etc. When using a salvaged used light pole does the entire pole need to free of small elecrical access holes or can they be plugged? How long have the poles lasted on members boats? Thank you in advance.
    Ben,

    I think this is a convenient and sound form of unstayed mast, when it can be found. I don't know of any failures. Mine has lasted over 80,000 miles and, though the surface is getting beaten up, I believe it to be still sound. My masthead is a flat plate, welded on, with triangular buttresses and U bolts for the halyard etc. This has lasted well, too. Anodising is best, paint has a limited life-span. Some people wax their un-anodised masts, but this has to be done regularly. There must be no holes close to deck level. There must be a hole near the heel for a through-pin, and another near the heel for electrical cables, and that's fine, but don't exit cables any higher than necessary. Any pre-existing holes should be left, or covered with a bonded-on plate - welding, or screwing on a cover, will introduce further weaknesses.  Unstayed masts should be as stiff as possible, without overburdening the boat. A larger diameter/thinner wall has a better strength/weight ratio and stiffness/weight ratio than a smaller diameter/thicker wall tube - but in practice, you have to take what you can find. 3/16" or 5mm wall thickness is probably optimum.

    Hope that helps.

  • 22 Jun 2014 06:50
    Reply # 3018583 on 3018457
    Deleted user
    Thank you for the response. I have looked at the spreadsheet for a general comparison of vessels with similar displacement and aluminum masts. I am assuming it is better to error on a slightly heavier wall thickness and spar diameter. What are the current opinions on flexibility vs rigidity in aluminum masts? I.E thicker wall and larger diameter with more rigidity vs. a thinner wall, smaller diameter, more flexible mast. Or is it common practice to carry as heavy a thickness and diameter as you can, that is still acceptable for weight aloft, righting moment, etc?
  • 22 Jun 2014 06:17
    Reply # 3018549 on 3018457

    Hi Ben.  I'm afraid it's all rather seat of the pants for deciding on your aluminium lighting pole.  There's a bit of information here: http://www.junkrigassociation.org/junkfaqs_masts (Webmaster, please note that the new linking page doesn't work on my netbook: I can't move it up the screen and lock it there, to get at the correct button.), which will help quite a bit.  If you can use that as a start and then locate some real poles, some of the better-informed members will be able to give you sound information as to whether that particular pole will/not be suitable for what you want to do.

    We have also compiled data in a spread sheet, which you can download from this page: http://www.junkrigassociation.org/sails_masts_gear/.  This is necessarily far from comprehensive due to the amount of information that is available, but once again, I think it will help point you in the right direction.  Until recently, alloy light poles were a rare bird outside of the US, so they haven't been used elsewhere that much. 

    Generally speaking, any holes in the mast should be avoided.  I suspect the only way they could safely be 'plugged' would be with some aluminium weldment.

    I hope this helps.


  • 22 Jun 2014 04:28
    Message # 3018457
    Deleted user
    Where can I locate how to determine proper wall thickness and base dia. etc for an aluminum light pole mast? I would like to hear pros/cons of using them as a mast, past failures, masthead fittings, welding, raw surface or painted, design issues, I wish I would have.....etc.etc. When using a salvaged used light pole does the entire pole need to free of small elecrical access holes or can they be plugged? How long have the poles lasted on members boats? Thank you in advance.
    Last modified: 22 Jun 2014 04:29 | Deleted user
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