Controlling the rig and cleat arrangement

  • 13 Apr 2014 04:02
    Reply # 1536779 on 1528946
    Deleted user
    Patric A wrote:

    Planning to take my boat out for the first time this year. Having never sailed a junk rigged boat however I'm still puzzled how things work. Mainly how you cleat of the main sheet. At the moment it's simply tied to the taffrail, no cleats in the cockpit and the ones on the coachroof don't look like they're supposed to take the main sheet. Am I missing something obvious there?

    Yours is a Benford like ours, so if there is a cleat on the coach roof then that is for the main sheet. (All our lines terminate on the coach roof.) The sheet should run through a pair of blocks on a horse at the stern, then it is led back along the boom to the mast step, through another block to a cleat or cam cleat on the coach roof. That is the standard way for Badgers.
  • 01 Apr 2014 23:30
    Reply # 1529556 on 1529220
    Patric A wrote:Speaking of stuff taking up space: somewhere under there is an Atoms windvane that I haven't yet fitted (more stainless plumbing needed).
    Atoms self-steering gears are a fine piece of kit, Patric.  You should be pleased with it. 

    I lead my sheet to one quarter and then along the cockpit seat to a winch (which I rarely use as such, but came with the boat).  It works satisfactorily.  You can (sort of) see it in my photos, no 23 in the Fantail album.  But if you want to, I can take a photo put it in my profile.  (I'm short of data at the moment and don't renew for another couple of days, which is why I didn't just take the photo and post it anyway.)

    I've never felt the need for downhauls, even on Badger, which didn't have a running luff hauling parrel.

  • 01 Apr 2014 15:50
    Reply # 1529220 on 1528946
    Deleted user
    Thanks for the pic Arne, that looks like something I might do myself. Plenty of spare blocks clogging up the boat! Speaking of stuff taking up space: somewhere under there is an Atoms windvane that I haven't yet fitted (more stainless plumbing needed). What difference would it make to the sheeting arrangement? There's still a frustratingly long list of things to do really :( At least I finally had a boom gallows made last year.
  • 01 Apr 2014 08:32
    Reply # 1529077 on 1528946
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    On a boat with a transom hung rudder, I prefer to lead the sheet over a block on the aft deck, just enough to the side to not hinder tiller movement. From there the hauling end is brought to a cleat at the aft end of the cockpit. Here is how I did it on my present boat. In that case the sheet and the cleat was offset to get clear of that hatch.

    Good luck

    Last modified: 13 Apr 2014 09:29 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 01 Apr 2014 02:32
    Reply # 1528977 on 1528946

    if there's no self steering arrangement, and you'll be hand steering, then the last block in the sheet, where the tail of it comes to hand, could well be fitted with a cam cleat. Failing that, there will need to be some kind of cleat which is easy to use, such that the tail of the sheet will not foul the tiller. That's sometimes difficult to arrange with a transom- or sternpost-hung rudder.

    For the first few reefs, no downhaul is needed, and the battens should drop under their own weight. When deep-reefed, the luff hauling parrel should haul down the upper luff satisfactorily, and you are left with the issue of what to do at the aft end. Some of us tie a line around the bundle of sheetlets to avoid too much twist, and some of us let the sail twist off...
  • 01 Apr 2014 01:49
    Message # 1528946
    Deleted user

    Planning to take my boat out for the first time this year. Having never sailed a junk rigged boat however I'm still puzzled how things work. Mainly how you cleat of the main sheet. At the moment it's simply tied to the taffrail, no cleats in the cockpit and the ones on the coachroof don't look like they're supposed to take the main sheet. Am I missing something obvious there?

    Reefing works through the weight of the sail when lowered or do you tie the battens together in order to prevent them from fanning up in a gust?

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