2P or not 2P...

  • 14 Nov 2013 01:43
    Reply # 1437878 on 1437762
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    Erik and Evi Menzel Ivey wrote:I think travellers are out for me.  Certainly on the mizzen, which is sheeted to a boomkin on off the stern.  The main sheet is on-center, and I could see on a longer leg ttaking it to the rail if the sheeting angles are substantially better.  

    Kurt - thanks for the encouragement to cheat :)  I think if the short sheet-spans creates an issue on a reach or run, that may not be too bad.  On the wind would be a bigger issue 

    David - its the other David's Footprints sheetlets that look short.  Maybe it is the angle though.

    Erik

    The sheetlets on 'Footprints' are all to the recommended PJR lengths so it must be the angle of the photograph that makes them look shorter. Certainly the sheeting on Footprints' sail has been a success with little or no twist in the leech and everything self adjusting well when the sail is reefed down. The top sheetlet has an anti twist span which also seems to be very successful. The only thing I did wrong was to use some small blocks with swivels as part of the sheet to sheetlet connections and I have experience some twisting of the mainsheet, although this has mostly not occurred now I have a new braided line sheet. 
  • 14 Nov 2013 00:17
    Reply # 1437762 on 1433694
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    I think travellers are out for me.  Certainly on the mizzen, which is sheeted to a boomkin on off the stern.  The main sheet is on-center, and I could see on a longer leg ttaking it to the rail if the sheeting angles are substantially better.  

    Kurt - thanks for the encouragement to cheat :)  I think if the short sheet-spans creates an issue on a reach or run, that may not be too bad.  On the wind would be a bigger issue 

    David - its the other David's Footprints sheetlets that look short.  Maybe it is the angle though.

    Erik
  • 13 Nov 2013 21:36
    Reply # 1437650 on 1433694
    When Tystie was rigged as a ketch, she had port and starboard sheets on each sail, initially. With the deck blocks set well out to each side, the drift is rather greater than it would appear in a side-on view, and the spans can be longer. It would be a similar case if the deck blocks were mounted on a traveller. Later on, I tried using a single sheet on the mainsail, which didn't need to be sheeted as close as the mizzen, and then I had to suffer the shortcomings of short spans.
  • 13 Nov 2013 20:58
    Reply # 1437609 on 1433694
    Yes, we cheat a litle, all in the interest of sail area and lower booms. The usual effect is a bit of a zig-zag in the leech when, say, beam reaching. It's either not so very serious, or we juggle the lengths of sheetlets and the height of the lifts to make it acceptable. You can too!

    Cheers,
    Kurt
  • 12 Nov 2013 20:18
    Message # 1433694
    Deleted user
    As I peruse the great pictures members have posted of their rigs, I keep checking out the various sheet and sheetlet setups.  And it seems that some folks are using less than the PJR recommended 2P on their sheetlets.  It is a little hard to tell from photos and given the angles.  Not naming names...  yet :)

    Can folks provide some feedback.  My interested in this is esp. strong because of our ketch or possible schooner rig and the limited Dmin.

    Erik
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