Lacing cambered panels individually to battens?

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  • 28 Feb 2024 21:25
    Reply # 13322196 on 13321977
    Anonymous wrote:

    This is the sail I have made using separate panels. The battens are made from aluminium keder rail (17 x 44 mm) with grooves for 10 mm keder lining.  The yard has a 12 mm pultruded GRP rod in the upper groove for stiffness. Keder lining (aka luff tape) is sewn to the panels. The batten ends to where the panel corners  are tied  are made from delrin. The lashings are 6mm cable ties, very strong. Panels are cambered.

    As I have no earlier experience of junk rigs. I cannot say whether this construction method is better or worse than others. Anyway, it works for me!

    Very pretty. Very clean looking. Of course if you are trying to look "old school" or vintage it fails but I am a big fan of functionality anyway.

    They may even let you moor at the Yacht club  ;)


  • 28 Feb 2024 16:20
    Reply # 13321977 on 13300982

    This is the sail I have made using separate panels. The battens are made from aluminium keder rail (17 x 44 mm) with grooves for 10 mm keder lining.  The yard has a 12 mm pultruded GRP rod in the upper groove for stiffness. Keder lining (aka luff tape) is sewn to the panels. The batten ends to where the panel corners  are tied  are made from delrin. The lashings are 6mm cable ties, very strong. Panels are cambered.

    As I have no earlier experience of junk rigs. I cannot say whether this construction method is better or worse than others. Anyway, it works for me!



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    Last modified: 28 Feb 2024 16:22 | Anonymous member
  • 25 Feb 2024 00:37
    Reply # 13320426 on 13320239
    Anonymous wrote:

    A fine photo of a fine sail on a perfect boat (well, I would say that, wouldn't I?), and I've grabbed it to use as my computer's desktop ...

    ... but it's still on starboard tack with the sail blowing away from the batten. Whereas what I'm interested in seeing is a view from the port side, on port tack with the sail blowing towards the batten.

    Yes, I realized that after I posted it for you.... When I finally get a the correct photo I shall post it for you. For some reason, except for a rather distant shot that tells one nothing, I've not yet come across the desired photo... it may have to wait until I get Zebedee sailing in a few more months time.

    You did well with the design and Annie did a masterful job in her building. I've even considered building a 30ft (stretched) version for myself but quite frankly at 66 years of age, I'd rather be sailing :-).

    Last modified: 25 Feb 2024 00:43 | Anonymous member
  • 24 Feb 2024 07:46
    Reply # 13320239 on 13300982

    A fine photo of a fine sail on a perfect boat (well, I would say that, wouldn't I?), and I've grabbed it to use as my computer's desktop ...

    ... but it's still on starboard tack with the sail blowing away from the batten. Whereas what I'm interested in seeing is a view from the port side, on port tack with the sail blowing towards the batten.

    Last modified: 24 Feb 2024 07:48 | Anonymous member
  • 22 Feb 2024 23:59
    Reply # 13319637 on 13302071
    Anonymous wrote:
    Paul wrote:

    Sorry folks, you can make a good looking sail and also one that sets well using "method B" for batten pockets because I have done so many times. Below I post two photos of Fanshi's sail, one of each side. Unfortunately not exactly the same view on both sides but showing enough to make my point.

    But Paul, these two photos both show the sail blowing away from the batten! They don't show what happens on the other tack, so I don't think that your point is made.

    Further, I contend that the issue here is not whether you, a very skilled, very experienced sailmaker, can use method B to make a good looking sail - you can, clearly. It is whether method B should be used by a first time sailmaker, or whether there is one that will give a better result.

    Here you are Great One, Fanshi on the desired tack! :-)
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  • 26 Jan 2024 01:29
    Reply # 13306101 on 13303040
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    FanShi on port tack

    It's the right tack but not the right view. TGO wants to see the other side....
    Sigh.  I could have taken one the other day, but I hadn't caught up with this forum!
  • 20 Jan 2024 11:57
    Reply # 13303597 on 13300982

    Arne,

    Christoph's images show Ingeborg and her sail looking very fine indeed. If our new sail on our Annie looks anything like as good, I will be very pleased! I feel I have learned a lot from everyone's replies to this post. Thank you all!

    Pol


  • 19 Jan 2024 11:59
    Reply # 13303136 on 13300982
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    When JRA-member, Christoph Blaschke visited Stavanger in June 2022, he took a number of photos of Ingeborg, most of them from port side with Ingeborg on the port tack.
    I think the sail looks quite good, here with enough wind in it, so I see no reason for altering the way the sails are assembled (barrel cut  + Amateur's method B)

    Arne

    Dschunkenliebe in Stavanger – Christoph & die Fledermaus (wordpress.com)

    Last modified: 19 Jan 2024 17:32 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 19 Jan 2024 01:13
    Reply # 13303040 on 13302984
    Anonymous wrote:

    FanShi on port tack

    It's the right tack but not the right view. TGO wants to see the other side....
  • 18 Jan 2024 23:29
    Reply # 13302984 on 13300982

    FanShi on port tack

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