Bolt rope sewing

  • 05 Aug 2023 00:55
    Reply # 13236873 on 13234346

    Hi Arne, you probably smiled when I wrote about not having to remove any stitching. The next day I had to rip 2 rows before discovering I had a problem with the bobbin, Learning all the time!

  • 02 Aug 2023 10:42
    Reply # 13235449 on 13234346

    Thankyou Arne and Eric,

    I will stick with the zigzag and hopefully I won’t have to remove any. Tomorrow I will start seaming and joining the bottom 2 panels. Exciting times!

  • 01 Aug 2023 21:00
    Reply # 13235257 on 13234346
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Actually, my main reason for zigzag stitching is that it is easier to rip a zigzag seam :-) ...

    As for boltrope on a cambered panel sail, my experiense is the stiffer, the better.

    Arne

  • 01 Aug 2023 12:45
    Reply # 13235015 on 13234346
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Bonjour

    If I understood well the Arnes "bolt rope" concept the rope or webbing should be stiffer than the sailcloth, in order to transfer the load from the sail cloth to the corners of the pannel and the sail. Otherwise the "bolt rope" or webbing would not take the effort. If the webbing is sufficiently stiff it will be much stiffer than the stitching were the thread is already going up and down through the two or three material layers...

    You may, mainly for intellectual matter, specially because it is at no cost, add a little extra streaching by using zigzag or half zigzag to the stitching.

    Anyway the relatve streatching of the sail cloth and the webbing is much more important.

    Eric


  • 31 Jul 2023 10:21
    Reply # 13234360 on 13234346

    Well if it's an Arne type sail I would totally go with Arne's recommendation for stitching... more detail on weight/strength/type of fabric and webbing might be helpful.

  • 31 Jul 2023 09:53
    Reply # 13234356 on 13234346

    Thanks Jan,

    Point taken on the name of the Boltrope/Luff reinforcement. Why Im curious is Arnes method stresses that this part of the sail takes almost all the strain leaving the cloth to do its work. My thinking is, when the seam and the webbing are combined they become a unit and not stretching is their job.... but i could be wrong. Im happy to sew it either way but thought it would be a good exercise to aski the JR community. Cheers

  • 31 Jul 2023 09:19
    Reply # 13234351 on 13234346

    My tuppence worth: The webbing and the sailcloth are the two major components which ideally should stretch together equally but probably won't... I would suggest there is an argument for using zig-zag stitching to accommodate the different stretch in the two fabrics, the stitching's job is to hold them together face to face, not to take any longitudinal stress.  It's not really a bolt rope at all, it's luff reinforcement. 

  • 31 Jul 2023 08:12
    Message # 13234346

    I’m currently making a cambered sail for my Farr5000 I am going to use a polyester webbing for the bolt rope. Looking at the comparison of straight and zigzag stitching, the straight has greater resistance to stretch. I’m guessing that would make it preferable for the multiple stitching on that part of the sail. Does anyone have any experience in this regard. Cheers Alex Holds ( the only Junkie in Western Australia it seems)

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