Anchor riding sail for junkrig

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  • 13 Aug 2021 09:06
    Reply # 10928770 on 10922294
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Tidal versus non-tidal waters.

    I guess the choice between anchoring from the bow or the stern should depend on where you are. In my almost non-tidal waters, one can safely anchor from the stern. In fact, my boat (Marieholm IF) has no bow roller or anchor well at the bow, so handling the anchor from the cockpit is a lot more convenient.

    However, if one lives in a river or in tidal waters with currents running at over one or two(?) knots, my armchair guess is that a boat like mine would start kiting about if anchored from the stern: A boat that is directionally stable, will be very unstable in reverse.

    Arne


  • 12 Aug 2021 21:09
    Reply # 10927864 on 10927148
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    Anonymous wrote:

    I thought about how you could be able to center the anchor, adjust the rode under load and store the setup while sailing.  

    Certainly it works for a drogue, but I wonder how confusing it may make an anchorage.  We have grown up passing astern of anchored boats.  I would be concerned of someone inadvertently cutting my rode

    I hope this drawing is legible 




    It seems logical to me to pass all anchored boats on the lee side of them for that reason (disregarding those tied up at dock). Conditioning can overwhelm logic, though, and I just looked through my old copy of the ODNR Ohio Boat Operator's Guide--which has an illustrated instruction to "Anchor from the bow--not from the stern." I don't know if that's a legal mandate.

    Isn't there an internationally recognized signal flag to be displayed on boats at anchor?

  • 12 Aug 2021 16:10
    Reply # 10927148 on 10922294
    Deleted user

    I thought about how you could be able to center the anchor, adjust the rode under load and store the setup while sailing.  

    Certainly it works for a drogue, but I wonder how confusing it may make an anchorage.  We have grown up passing astern of anchored boats.  I would be concerned of someone inadvertently cutting my rode

    I hope this drawing is legible 



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  • 12 Aug 2021 13:33
    Reply # 10926893 on 10922294
    I’ll try anchoring from the stern for sure, in the process of assembling series drogues for bigger boat right now, jobs to do include manufacturing some strong points on the stern for attachment. Thanks Arne, I don’t have a spare halyard on Bluebelle but wouldn’t be hard to add one, I could just prussic a riding sail to it.
  • 11 Aug 2021 18:31
    Reply # 10925072 on 10922294
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    After reading that article, I wonder now if I have been anchoring ass backward all these years.  When you add the relative ease of deploying and retrieving an anchor at the stern, I am impressed.   The only wrinkle is you would need some sort of bridle so the stern centers on the anchor.  

    A very interesting thread developing here

  • 11 Aug 2021 14:21
    Reply # 10924670 on 10922294
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Bonjour

    As the mast is far foward, it could be wise to anchor by the stern as recommended by Jordan

    http://jordanseriesdrogue.com/D_14.htm

    Eric

  • 10 Aug 2021 15:27
    Reply # 10922462 on 10922294
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Jonathan,

    maybe you could use this idea. It's just a flat triangle with a little hollow cut in the luff and foot, and with a stout boltrope around it.

    Arne


    Last modified: 11 Aug 2021 22:21 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 10 Aug 2021 13:55
    Message # 10922294

    Normally you’d rig a small mizzen off the backstay to control swing at anchorage, how’s this done with a junk rig? First panel seems too big.. thanks for advice 

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