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  • 18 May 2011 00:51
    Message # 593648
    Deleted user
    Hi. New here and are looking for a boat to sail home to NZ.

    I've done lots of sailing on pointy rigged boats and also gaff....

    I have found this boat for sale, any comments would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    paul.

  • 18 May 2011 02:16
    Reply # 593751 on 593648
    paul bowering wrote: Hi. New here and are looking for a boat to sail home to NZ.

    I've done lots of sailing on pointy rigged boats and also gaff....

    I have found this boat for sale, any comments would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    paul.

    Hi Paul,
    Welcome to the JRA.
    That's a very interesting boat you've found. Being designed by Bruce Kirby, she'll be fast and lively to sail. She seems to be well equipped for the trip except for needing a GPS and a selfsteering gear. The sails will be cut flat, I expect, which we've moved away from, putting camber into the panels; but for the trade wind run down to New Zealand, that won't be a disadvantage. I see the radar is at the top of the foremast, which will need to be very stiff to avoid too much whipping about at sea. The halyards are wire, to a winch, and I would want to replace these with rope tackles, as is usual. I would suggest 3-part halyards led to self tailing winches. I would throw off the microwave oven, and add a bigger anchor (I am very pleased with the 20kg Rocna I bought recently).
    Otherwise, she looks pretty darned good, and almost ready to go.
    I've searched back through the postings, and I see that Kurt Ulmer has actually seen Tristram E and sailed alongside her (go to the technical forum and search on Tristram E in the Google search box). He may be able to tell you more.
    Last modified: 18 May 2011 02:16 | Anonymous member
  • 18 May 2011 04:58
    Reply # 593934 on 593751
    Deleted user
    David Tyler wrote:
    paul bowering wrote: Hi. New here and are looking for a boat to sail home to NZ.

    I've done lots of sailing on pointy rigged boats and also gaff....

    I have found this boat for sale, any comments would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    paul.

    Hi Paul,
    Welcome to the JRA.
    That's a very interesting boat you've found. Being designed by Bruce Kirby, she'll be fast and lively to sail. She seems to be well equipped for the trip except for needing a GPS and a selfsteering gear. The sails will be cut flat, I expect, which we've moved away from, putting camber into the panels; but for the trade wind run down to New Zealand, that won't be a disadvantage. I see the radar is at the top of the foremast, which will need to be very stiff to avoid too much whipping about at sea. The halyards are wire, to a winch, and I would want to replace these with rope tackles, as is usual. I would suggest 3-part halyards led to self tailing winches. I would throw off the microwave oven, and add a bigger anchor (I am very pleased with the 20kg Rocna I bought recently).
    Otherwise, she looks pretty darned good, and almost ready to go.
    I've searched back through the postings, and I see that Kurt Ulmer has actually seen Tristram E and sailed alongside her (go to the technical forum and search on Tristram E in the Google search box). He may be able to tell you more.
    Thanks David.

      My thoughts exactly.  I have been in touch with Bruce Kirby and he is pretty excited about the rig,  The first time he has heard of the boat....  The microwave needs to go. And I was thinking high tech non stretch line to ST winches for the halyards. (Three part?) 
    Have already been in touch with Hydrovane for the steering....

    One thing. there does not seem to be much in the way of longitudinal support in the mast  steps, they are bolted to floors glassed in to the boat. a bit strange,  keeps the step out of any moisture though. and relatively easy to add some stiffeners fore and aft.

    I'll email Kurt.  Thanks much.

    Paul.
  • 18 May 2011 07:37
    Reply # 594038 on 593648
    There's no need for low-stretch rope, but I prefer highest quality yacht braid, for longest life, and best overall economy. There was a topic in one of the fora not long back, in  which we chewed the fat over ropes for junk rig.
    Yes, three part halyards.  Some people use more, without a winch. If you use less, with a powerful winch, the sail can come down a tad too fast if you let go of the halyard, with all that weight in the spars. Three parts and a st winch of 16:1 to 30:1 is optimum for efficiency and ease of handling, I think.
  • 18 May 2011 15:12
    Reply # 594196 on 594038
    Deleted user
    David Tyler wrote: There's no need for low-stretch rope, but I prefer highest quality yacht braid, for longest life, and best overall economy. There was a topic in one of the fora not long back, in  which we chewed the fat over ropes for junk rig.
    Yes, three part halyards.  Some people use more, without a winch. If you use less, with a powerful winch, the sail can come down a tad too fast if you let go of the halyard, with all that weight in the spars. Three parts and a st winch of 16:1 to 30:1 is optimum for efficiency and ease of handling, I think.
      Good advice,  Thanks again David.
  • 18 May 2011 21:04
    Reply # 594500 on 593648
    I'd say Tristram E deserves the consideration of anybody seeking a junk in her size range. And she's in a fine cruising area.
    Good luck,
    Kurt
  • 19 May 2011 00:15
    Reply # 594603 on 593648
    Fine Cruising area? what a master of understatement you are, Kurt, to be sure. The 1000 miles of archipelago between Seattle and Skagway is the best cruising on the planet. I look forward to going back up there when I'm through with OZ and NZ. Tristram E should find some time to cruise north for a while before coming home.
    Last modified: 19 May 2011 00:16 | Anonymous member
  • 19 May 2011 01:04
    Reply # 594629 on 593648
    She looks like a peach!  Probably more like 37 ft than 40 ft, I suspect.  They may have included overhanging bits in LOA.

    A classic H/McL rig.  Jock would be thrilled to hear that she is making a long passage, if he actually did design the rig.  Bruce Kirby is a good designer: she should be a grand boat.

    I wouldn't be too keen on the radar at the top of the mast, either.

    I agree 100% with David about the wire halliards.  Nasty things that are totally obsolete.  You may have to change the blocks, but that would be a small price to pay.

    Of course you'd throw away the microwave and replace it with a pressure cooker.

    The boat is definitely under-anchored.  I'd want at least three and 9 or 10mm (3/8") chain on the bower.  While you are in North America, lay hands on a Kingston for rock, kelp and reassurance in really bad weather.  A 20 kg Manson Supreme would be as good as the Rocna and cheaper. 

    Can you take some photos of the mast step, and post them in your Profile?  This would give The Experts a chance to comment with more information.

    Do you need crew?    :-D
  • 19 May 2011 04:12
    Reply # 594711 on 593648
    Great-looking boat!

    Let us know when you want to sail her home. I'd be very interested in crewing, if you need extra hands.
  • 19 May 2011 12:58
    Reply # 594956 on 593648
    Deleted user
    paul bowering wrote: Hi. New here and are looking for a boat to sail home to NZ.

    I've done lots of sailing on pointy rigged boats and also gaff....

    I have found this boat for sale, any comments would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    paul.


    Buy it!
    And welcome aboard, paul!

    Be sure to avail yourself of the picture albums feature on your profile page too. (hint, hint)

    "MD!"
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