Free small latch gear for vertical axis vane

  • 12 Jul 2023 15:52
    Message # 13226842

    Worm and wormwheel latch gear that could be used for a pendulum servo or trim tab self steering gear. The worm carriage slides fore and aft, with spring detents. The visible cord is pulled to disengage, and both sides of the course adjusting line are pulled to engage. The vaneshaft is ⅝" diameter x 2ft 6in long, similar to the Hasler SP gear. I designed and made it many years ago, but never used it.

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  • 15 Jul 2023 05:09
    Reply # 13228178 on 13226842

    That looks like a nice piece of kit, David.  And I hope that junkies, at least, still make their own self-steering.  Someone I was talking to the other day looked at me like I was a lunatic when I suggested making his own.  He much preferred to spend a couple of thousand bucks on a second-hand gear.

  • 15 Jul 2023 20:43
    Reply # 13228293 on 13226842
    Anonymous wrote:

    Worm and wormwheel latch gear that could be used for a pendulum servo or trim tab self steering gear. The worm carriage slides fore and aft, with spring detents. The visible cord is pulled to disengage, and both sides of the course adjusting line are pulled to engage. The vaneshaft is ⅝" diameter x 2ft 6in long, similar to the Hasler SP gear. I designed and made it many years ago, but never used it.

    Hello David, is there any reason why, with modification, it can't be adapted to work with a horizontal axis vane?
  • 16 Jul 2023 07:08
    Reply # 13228379 on 13226842

    I can't see any possible, let alone desirable, way of doing that, Asmat. Can you?

  • 16 Jul 2023 12:27
    Reply # 13228407 on 13228379
    Anonymous wrote:

    I can't see any possible, let alone desirable, way of doing that, Asmat. Can you?

    No, David. Looking at your mechanism again more carefully, nor can I. I'm thinking of designing a replacement for the Hebridean vane gear aboard my 20ft Coromandel which works well enough, but occupies the whole of the Cook's berth, dismantled and stowed away.
  • 16 Jul 2023 21:14
    Reply # 13228543 on 13228415
    Anonymous wrote:

    But why reinvent the wheel?!

    Yes, that is an improvement over Emmelène's somewhat crudely engineered Hebridean. I admired Weaverbird's most elegant gear at the Brixham regatta a few years ago.

    Emmelène will probably be limited to coastwise sailing in future, so I don't expect to leave the self - steering in charge while off watch. With her split junk rig, she is so well balanced I think a version of Arne's "Otto" windvane acting directly on "Malena's" rudder may be sufficient for my needs. It would certainly need a much bigger vane than your servo pendulum gear, which I don't see as a disadvantage.

  • 19 Jul 2023 07:37
    Reply # 13229614 on 13226842

    What size windvane do you have in mind Asmat?

    Best regards,

    Antoine


    Last modified: 19 Jul 2023 07:39 | Anonymous member
  • 19 Jul 2023 10:22
    Reply # 13229640 on 13229614
    Anonymous wrote:

    What size windvane do you have in mind Asmat?

    Best regards,

    Antoine


    Arne's "Otto" windvane was 1.2m (4ft) tall. I will use this as a starting point, leaving scope for reduction if this is found desirable. I envisage being able to lock it vertically to act as a riding sail, helping to prevent the sheering about at anchor which junks tend to exhibit.
  • 19 Jul 2023 11:33
    Reply # 13229650 on 13226842

    A riding sail would be great.

    May I suggest we move this to the technical forum.

    Last modified: 20 Jul 2023 09:06 | Anonymous member
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