Another write up by Arne Kverneland

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  • 05 Apr 2024 18:31
    Reply # 13339479 on 869421
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    TWO MORE STRINGS OF MASTER SAILPLANS

    I have spent the tail end of the Stavanger winter with drawing up two separate strings of master sailplans.

    Originally, in 2014 there was the 10-sail string with Johanna 70 master sailplans. These sails with 70° yard angle have a shortcoming in common: Maximum mast balance ends up at around 17% with the halyard slingpoint at the 55% position.

    These two new strings  of the Johanna 65 and Johanna 60 master sails will let one find and use sailplans with anything from 12 to about 26% mast balance.

    I mainly did this to speed up my own design work, but I hope it will be helpful to some of you as well.

    The files can be found on my page (The Junk Rig Association - Arne Kverneland) in the right column under MASTER SAILPLANS, or by clicking on these shortlinks:

    Cheers,
    Arne


    Ketil Greve showing off his Johanna 60 type sail on his Boudicca.
    Plenty of mast balance, around 21-22%...

    (Full size photos in the album, Photo section 7)

    Last modified: 05 Apr 2024 19:13 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 09 Feb 2024 16:22
    Reply # 13313117 on 13312998
    Anonymous wrote:

    Sailcloth is cloth that is conceived, designed and manufactured specifically for making sails but one of the wonderful things about junkies is that we make sails out of all sorts of things from cheap tarpaulins to hot-air-balloon fabric and even “real” sailcloth. I think using the term sailcloth in a junk write-up isn’t quite right. Although once you’ve chosen a certain fabric to make your sail it does become your sailcloth. 

    Are rice sacks sailcloth?
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  • 09 Feb 2024 14:18
    Reply # 13312998 on 869421

    Sailcloth is cloth that is conceived, designed and manufactured specifically for making sails but one of the wonderful things about junkies is that we make sails out of all sorts of things from cheap tarpaulins to hot-air-balloon fabric and even “real” sailcloth. I think using the term sailcloth in a junk write-up isn’t quite right. Although once you’ve chosen a certain fabric to make your sail it does become your sailcloth. 

  • 08 Feb 2024 15:57
    Reply # 13312512 on 13312375
    Anonymous wrote:

    The word sailcloth has been in widespread use for many years

    I did not expect an offhand comment to generate such a thread.... I must be in the right place  ;)
  • 08 Feb 2024 11:40
    Reply # 13312375 on 869421

    The word sailcloth has been in widespread use for many years and is in the English dictionary. It covers every sort of sail-making material. The Wiki description just about sums it up: Sailcloth is cloth used to make sails. It can be made of a variety of materials, including natural fibers such as flax, hemp, or cotton in various forms of sail canvas, and synthetic fibers such as nylon, polyester, aramids, and carbon fibers in various woven, spun, and molded textiles. Wikipedia

  • 05 Feb 2024 22:05
    Reply # 13311018 on 869421

    I'd just like to give a plug here for my preferred UK supplier of sailcloth, soft (great for barrel-cambered and tucked panels), and hard (great for flat-cut and shelved panels) in various widths, colours and weights. I made a number of successful sails from these:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/englishseadog/Sailcloth/_i.html?store_cat=9085018010

    I see that there is some soft sailcloth up to 2 metres wide, which would help greatly when cutting a panel out of a single cloth, keeping the threadline close to parallel to the leech (as it should be). 

  • 05 Feb 2024 15:37
    Reply # 13310729 on 869421
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Graeme is right about the Norwegian term «seilduk». Btw. “duk” used alone is often used about table-cloth. As for “duck”; I frequently find it in books written by fellow Americans, Howard Chappelle and Bill Atkins (written about 100 years ago).

    Another thing from that Chapter 5:
    I write about the barrel cut method as if it were ‘meat and potatoes’. In fact, the method has sometimes been debated as to if or how it works. After all, asking a perfectly flat piece of  canvas to take a 3-dimensional, baggy shape, is quite something. That is why I nailed up a test panel before making my first cambered panel sail (NL 30).

    For many years it was thought (by me as well) that it was the softness of the fabric which saved the day. Only a couple of years ago did it slowly dawn to me that this probably was not the case.

    The fact is that the warp of the fabric is running parallel with the battens, so will not permit much horizontal stretch. Then, by looking more closely at a number of photos of Ingeborg’s sail, taken at right angle, I could spot a small but noticeable hollow at luff and leech. I had not reckoned with the extra length needed along the middle of the panel to make that camber. The sail sorted this out, all by itself.
    This both gave a nice and even camber, plus that it prevented any hooked leech to develop  -  just like that  -   by accident! If I had made a gaff sail of that size, with that webbing at the leech, it surely would have ended with a hooked leech.

    As it is, I feel no need to add Bermudan-style battens between the JR battens.

    Arne


    (Full size diagram at Member’s album, Arne’s sketches, section 7)


    Last modified: 11 Apr 2024 22:46 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 05 Feb 2024 11:17
    Reply # 13310616 on 13310612
    Anonymous wrote:

    Yes, and is my sail made of polyester, dacron or Terylene?

    That's easy. Dacron (Dupont de Nemours Inc.) and Terylene (ICI PLC) are the two original and best known brand names (there are now many others) for the very basic extruded polyester fibres:

    {Polyester fiber is a “manufactured fiber in which the fiber forming substance is any long chain synthetic polymer composed at least 85% by weight of an ester of a dihydric alcohol (HOROH) and terephthalic acid (p-HOOC-C6H4COOH)”. The most widely used polyester fiber is made from the linear polymer poly (ethylene terephtalate)}

    that (among many different applications) were then spun into yarn, that was then woven into cloth/fabric/canvas of many different types for many different end uses - one of which was for making sails.

    Last modified: 05 Feb 2024 12:54 | Anonymous member
  • 05 Feb 2024 10:56
    Reply # 13310612 on 869421

    Yes, and is my sail made of polyester, dacron or Terylene?

    Last modified: 05 Feb 2024 11:01 | Anonymous member
  • 04 Feb 2024 23:58
    Reply # 13310496 on 869421

    So it's great that there are so many drawings and photos. Some people believe that the language of sailors is universal, but the language of pictures is more understandable... (provided, of course,  in my case, that they are not Chinese/other pictograms).

    Last modified: 05 Feb 2024 00:59 | Anonymous member
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