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  • 01 Aug 2020 17:19
    Reply # 9138815 on 8066749

    Price is reduced from 25000 to 15000 USD.

    yachtworld.co.uk

    Hope she is not rotting away and finds a new owner.

    Langkawi is a nice place to stay. Taxfree. And there is a good marina with all tech. services nearby.

  • 30 Nov 2019 11:57
    Reply # 8146679 on 8133778

    Anonymous wrote:

    . I need an oracle!


    I suppose Tristan Jones is yer man for oracular sayings: ". . . If in doubt, **** off out!"
  • 29 Nov 2019 03:39
    Reply # 8145640 on 8066749

    I would like to point out that my visit on the boat was indeed limited in time, but that Paul (the broker) himself showed me the weak points such as the connection of the wheel steering system (easily repairable in my opinion) and the repair carried out on the hull to the old waste water tank (which I think is well done).
    He also told me that things like the compass and solar panels had been stolen.
    I don't want to enter into a polemic about his real intentions, but I don't think the sale of this boat will bring him any big dividends.
    When buying a boat at this price, you should expect to have work to do, and if you want to change the rig for a junk rig to make a serious study of the possibilities of adaptation.
    In any case, the cost of all interventions must be assessed:
    (flight for Malaysia, Haul out and boatyard, keel lifting system inspection and review, engine repair or exchange, steering system, mast adaptation, set of sails, running rigging and fittings, navigation instruments, safety equipment, paints etc...) to deduct the final budget for this acquisition.

    In the end, the decision is up to the buyer and it is important to take it with full knowledge of the facts to avoid disappointment!


  • 21 Nov 2019 23:56
    Reply # 8133778 on 8066749
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    I have been a bit confused about purchase. Being my first boat buy, there is a dizzy array of information to take in. some known, some implied. I was all set to make the deal, and Bruno looked at boat for me in the bay. I had informed the broker Paul, had given Bruno his number, but a mistake I made was not firming up a meeting, though I did say Bruno would be there around the 15th. Paul the broker somehow managed to not meet up with Bruno and generally not be there, and finally he gave him keys at 6pm which gave no time to install a battery etc. The seller failed to mention anything that needed repair even after being pushed to do so. So i was left with a feeling of 'something to hide' either that or Paul just doesn't care, or at best too busy and dis-organized. So now I am not sure. I would ironically be fine if they laid it out, I am a builder, so no surprises with surprises. anyway, I want to take it on, but if its a lemon, i'd rather not. Being in Malaysia and all. anyway, I'm a bit confused. I need an oracle!


  • 09 Nov 2019 15:39
    Reply # 8099252 on 8076454
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    Anonymous wrote:


    I could probably give an advice about the general state, but if it was for me I would haul out the boat for a good hull inspection before buy it!

    I am pretty keen, am negotiating contracts etc, if you are there, it would be awesome if you spoke to Paul the broker, and sussed it out. I will prob fly over and have a look. nothing beats standing on a boat to get a feel. 

    she needs a bit of work, but not as much as many boats i have looked at.

    as you say a haul out is in order. there was a survey done a few years ago.

  • 31 Oct 2019 20:44
    Reply # 8086036 on 8066749
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    Thanks for all your excellent inputs. I have the clearest picture now. Bar sailing her.

    According to owner the engine didn't fail or breakdown, it simply ran out of fuel.

    The engine used is apparently as sturdy as.

    I am not sure if chaffing on mast is of consequence. It may well be one of hundreds of such layers and simply needs patching.

    The wishbone is of no use to me, so doesn't matter.

    The dodger, being aluminum is easily cut off and the material welded into a different configuration. 

    A hard dodger is a bonus.

    I am good welding steel, I never welded ally, its a lot cleaner to work with.

    Over all I think she looks good, and I cant see any real reason not to buy.

    She ticks most of my boxes, two masts, steel/ally, lifting keel (ideal) roomy.

    I would like a timber deck, but maybe i can laminate one on.

    Hot metal, v wood.

    Unless a survey tells me otherwise.

    As for anodes, she is in a quiet bay with no stray currents. not in a marina. the broker assured me no possible problems  there. I had a good hour long chat, Paul the Pom, seems like honest bloke with integrity, wasn't pushing boat or in a hurry to sell etc,

    He Also offered to look after me if I cam to visit, I didn't tell him I have a soup kitchen  budget with the demands of a sultan!









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  • 30 Oct 2019 05:50
    Reply # 8083367 on 8066749
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    The Freedom Story - written by Garry Hoyt as the impetus to the Freedom approach - was one of those early inspirations for me, and I was lucky to find a scan of it years later.

    If interested, I transcribed it here.

  • 28 Oct 2019 20:07
    Reply # 8080987 on 8066749

    I had a look on the Rehnert in December last year and finally did not buy it because she was too much of a project for me.

    Here are some additional pictures. 2 Fotos show some chafe on the masts. Another the repaired wishbone.

    The engine is also pretty "well used". She is in the water for a long time (without anodes being renewed). For me (!) the (unfinished) hard-dodger is build in a height that it blocks most of the field of view. Decent size inside, lots of space.

    Cheers


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  • 28 Oct 2019 16:13
    Reply # 8080575 on 8066749

    Just one thing I'd want an engineer to have a good look at:

    "The 14m carbon fibre masts were purchased from 'Freedom Yachts' with the owner's own designed rotating mast bases"

    Everything else seems to be well engineered, so maybe the owner knew what he was doing, but anyway, I'd want to have a good close look at the bearings, and make sure that the carbon mast has no electrical path to the aluminium hull.

    Other than that, nothing that a good pressure washer won't sort out, so far as I can see from the photos. Looks like a bargain to me!

  • 28 Oct 2019 10:21
    Reply # 8080035 on 8066749
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    For the curious, photo taken today, Monday 28th Oct

    I like it even more now!



    https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LlqiF2WodfaQ_fXOjR4dNWnt08f9JijC?usp=sharing

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