steel dory

  • 02 Jul 2019 02:45
    Reply # 7727144 on 7726286
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    Anonymous wrote:

    Hi Andrew,


    All the best in your search, David.

    thanks David
  • 02 Jul 2019 01:06
    Reply # 7726286 on 7702565

    Hi Andrew,

    if you look online at yachthub.com there are three boats in the 36-40 foot sailboat section that could meet your needs. (Select "list by lowest cost" and they are easy to find.)

    A 36 foot steel yacht in Bundaburg, Queensland, that appears to have sunk and will need a lot of work, but only $7,500.00

    A nice looking 36 foot steel multichine yacht in Queenscliffe, Victoria, that is a 90% complete project that has never been in the water, for $19,000.00

    A 40 foot Spray at Lake McQuarie, NSW, that is also unfinished, never been launched, about 80% complete project, for $23,000.00.

    All three are much closer to you than New Zealand and two of them are quite close to being complete new builds, and closer to your size requirements than the Wylo in New Zealand. All are at very reasonable asking price for what they are.

    All the best in your search, David.

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  • 01 Jul 2019 09:51
    Reply # 7717560 on 7702565

    I think it's a 32 ft Wylo, but it might be 35ft.  I'll find out for you.  And what he's asking!

  • 01 Jul 2019 01:37
    Reply # 7712898 on 7710893
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    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    Thanks Annie, thanks David!

    Yes, I was definitely thinking of a steel Wylo II.


    I know where there's a hull and decks for sale in NZ.  It was built inside and has been in the shed its whole life, as far as I know.

    Thanks Annie, do you know what sort of design etc, am open to options.

    (half my family is from nz!)

    ps i'm eating a lot more beans after reading your wonderful book. I am basically trying to eat like I would on a boat, generally, but not too strictly. I hardly cook actually, jcans of butter beans are my fav. That guy that circumnavigated solo in a junk rigged folk boat , just ate sprouts and nut butter!, I plan on a little more diversity, but at least I know the minimum requirements!




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  • 30 Jun 2019 22:11
    Reply # 7710893 on 7706159
    Anonymous wrote:

    Thanks Annie, thanks David!

    Yes, I was definitely thinking of a steel Wylo II.


    I know where there's a hull and decks for sale in NZ.  It was built inside and has been in the shed its whole life, as far as I know.
  • 30 Jun 2019 22:10
    Reply # 7710862 on 7706159
    Andrew wrote:

    Thanks Annie, thanks David!

    Yes, I was definitely thinking of a steel Wylo II.


    I know where there's a hull and decks for sale in NZ.  It's been under cover it's whole life.
  • 30 Jun 2019 09:56
    Reply # 7706159 on 7702565
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    Thanks Annie, thanks David!

    Yes, I was definitely thinking of a steel Wylo II.

    OK OK I am taking every ones advice, and I am looking for a second hand hull.

    Actually I have been looking all year, but decided to quash my niggling curiosity about custom build.

    So thanks for the deft quash!

    I did try and get some quotes from India, but the guy must have thought I was a rich westerner, as his prices even for a design were ridiculous.

    All i can say, is that the mind boggles at the amount of choice and consideration.

    Ill probably cover the whole thing in artwork any way, so i don't need a prima-donna

    thanks for help


    Andrew








  • 30 Jun 2019 02:52
    Reply # 7705591 on 7702565

    Hi Andrew

    I would fully support David Webb's comments that it will be a lot cheaper to buy an existing boat than to start from scratch, to say nothing of the grief of running a major project from thousands of miles away.  However, as he said, older hulls are vulnerable to rust.  Sprays can be uninspiring sailers, but  Pacific Spray can pick up her heels quite happily, once the sheets are started; no heavy-displacement, high volume boat is going to be a 'witch to windward'.

    If by 'dory', you are referring to Jay Benford's designs, then they would not be ideal for steel.  They are designed to be relatively light displacement, and just making one larger makes no difference to the 'relative' part of the equation.  If you are wedded to the concept, it would be worth contacting Mr Benford to see if he would draw up scantlings for you.  Quite a few "Wylo II" designs were built with plywood decks, to keep the weight down, and if properly done with epoxy, and well bedded, give less trouble than the hulls.  Certainly it is a lot easier to change fittings on a plywood deck than on a steel one, with less risk of subsequent rot/rust, from my experience.  If you were to do this on a dory, you might be able to get away with the extra weight of the steel, possibly by making adjustments to the ballast (a steel, hollow keel with lead right at the bottom?)

  • 30 Jun 2019 00:56
    Reply # 7705418 on 7702565

    Hi Andrew,

    the spray designs are not renowned for speed under sail but can perform reasonably well if they are given sufficient sail area, as you can with a properly designed junk rig. I suggest you talk to Rob Prince (JRA secretary) he owned Pacific Spray for quite a while and he could give you some idea of the performance under junk rig.

    All the best with the search, David.

  • 29 Jun 2019 23:17
    Reply # 7705311 on 7704419
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    Anonymous wrote:

    Hi Andrew,

    if you insist on 40 foot, steel and lots of space there are three 40 foot steel Roberts Spray vessels for sale on Gumtree between $26,000.00 and $35,000.00 which could meet your needs. Pacific Spray located in New Zealand is a junk rigged version of this design which could provide a design for a successful conversion to junk rig. Having a hull built would cost more than they are asking and would still need to be fitted out and equipped which would end up costing a lot more.

    David


    i looked into spray design, but apparently they are a real slug to sail...but you are right the room factor is good... ill take it on board that it costs more to build.


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