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  • 15 Nov 2011 23:38
    Reply # 750842 on 748284
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    Declan McKinney wrote:
    Andrew Bailey wrote:
    I am neither for or against Twitter. To me, it is just another possible communication tool which I am exploring, having decided some time ago that you have to keep looking at what the internet offers.
    Andrew,
    I'll never be a big social networker, as you'll gather by the length of time it takes me to respond. Though I was only thinking about Twitter for a specific purpose with another user group, the tone of the responses to your post confirm my reservations in testing it out any further.
    I do agree with you that you can reach people who would not otherwise stumble across the JRA. There's a whole generation out there who wouldn't communicate any other way. Well done for taking this initiative - fresh thinking is always a good thing.


    Thanks Declan,

    Like you, I'm not a social media evangelist, but I am fascinated at what the internet can do if you use it correctly, when you are trying to promote something.

    I had a website three years ago, that was getting about 200 hits a month. I put a link to it on another site, that was getting a lot of national publicity at the time and in three weeks I got 63000 hits ! And that continued for over a year, following that one-off, static link.

    But the Twitter thing is just a bit of fun. At this stage, it may just pull in a few unrelated responses from people selling new corn-plasters. And/or, it may catch the eye of potential jr users. But as I said, we dont have targets to hit..........yet!

     

  • 12 Nov 2011 16:33
    Reply # 748431 on 721617
    Anybody, not blind, searching the web for Junk rig, Djunkerigg or chineese lug will end up with the front page of Junk rig Association sooner or later. The fact that you have to be a member, weeds away the worst of the armchair specialists. I have given up the yahoo group altogether as the noise to signal was far too high. I am not into twitter or facebook as I have a life. Great sailing in Stavanger today btw.
  • 12 Nov 2011 10:35
    Reply # 748284 on 742512
    Andrew Bailey wrote:
    I am neither for or against Twitter. To me, it is just another possible communication tool which I am exploring, having decided some time ago that you have to keep looking at what the internet offers.
    Andrew,
    I'll never be a big social networker, as you'll gather by the length of time it takes me to respond. Though I was only thinking about Twitter for a specific purpose with another user group, the tone of the responses to your post confirm my reservations in testing it out any further.
    I do agree with you that you can reach people who would not otherwise stumble across the JRA. There's a whole generation out there who wouldn't communicate any other way. Well done for taking this initiative - fresh thinking is always a good thing.
  • 06 Nov 2011 07:27
    Reply # 743256 on 743119
    Andrew Bailey wrote:

    David,

    The JRA fora are great for those who know about them. But, just as you have found, that some people ( your daughters) use Facebook, I am suggesting that  others may use Twitter, which in turn, may just lead them to our website. What's to lose?

    Nothing to lose. It's just that I can't see a way gainfully to use Twitter ( for JRA publicity or for anything else), and so I'll continue to stay away. 
  • 06 Nov 2011 06:36
    Reply # 743230 on 721617
    What's to lose?  What indeed.  Anyone who wants to inform people about junk rig, regardless of their chosen media, is doing somebody a good turn. 

    I was brought up in a religious household where I was told that the benighted heathens  went to Hell regardless of whether they had been Brought The Word.  (Probably the start of my disenchantment with the whole deal - I've always had a rather over-developed sense of fair play.)  So it bothers me to think of those in sailing hell who have not yet been brought the word.  It's not so much that one wishes to proselytise as one wishes to make sure that people realise that there is an alternative.

  • 06 Nov 2011 06:25
    Reply # 743224 on 721617
    What's to lose?  What indeed.  Anyone who wants to inform people about junk rig, regardless of their chosen media, is doing somebody a good turn. 

    I was brought up in a religious household where I was told that the benighted heathens  went to Hell regardless of whether they had been Brought The Word.  (Probably the start of my disenchantment with the whole deal - I've always had a rather over-developed sense of fair play.)  So it bothers me to think of those in sailing hell who have not yet been brought the word.  It's not so much that one wishes to proselytise as one wishes to make sure that people realise that there is an alternative.


  • 06 Nov 2011 00:22
    Reply # 743119 on 729666
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    David Tyler wrote:
    Ketil Greve wrote:
    Declan McKinney wrote:
    Andrew Bailey wrote:

    As we are an increasingly international brigade, it will be interesting to see whether this will enable and attract enthusiasts' dialogue, 

    ...whether others would be interesting in playing a little more with Twitter in this regard.


    I guess we need to go to the Yacht Club Bar. That should be the perfect place for bragging, tall stories, and gossiping. We could even use "slightly clouded" as an excuse if seriousity should bring us down, ikke sant?

     

    I have to look in at Facebook (with my privacy settings tied up as tight as possible), or I wouldn't see my little grand-daughter growing up - it's the only way my daughters seem to communicate with the world. But I don't like it.
    I have yet to see any point or benefit in using Twitter, and have kept away.
    I had hoped that we could use these fora for all the uses that Andrew, Declan and Ketil mention. The "Bar" for social chat, the "Cruisers" for boat movements, the "Technical" for designing, building and modifying our boats and rigs, and so on. The one thing against doing everything here is that Wild Apricot does not (yet) fully support all the mobile devices and browsers. I can read these fora on my iPad, but can't write to them. That's a pity. If smart phones and tablets were fully supported, I wouldn't see any need to use any other social media.


    David,

    The JRA fora are great for those who know about them. But, just as you have found, that some people ( your daughters) use Facebook, I am suggesting that  others may use Twitter, which in turn, may just lead them to our website. Whats to loose?

  • 05 Nov 2011 00:18
    Reply # 742512 on 729352
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    Declan McKinney wrote:
    Andrew Bailey wrote:

    As we are an increasingly international brigade, it will be interesting to see whether this will enable and attract enthusiasts' dialogue, 

    Andrew,
    I had been toying about using Twitter for another forum I contribute to. I'll try to explain where I was coming from ...
    On websites/fora for boat owners, there are generally boat registries, galleries and the like which are a great reference. It's even better when these include links to owners' blogs or contact details. However, these databases are often difficult to keep up to date, for example removing old entries when boats change hands, and they don't give a sense of whether the boats are being actively sailed. 
    I was wondering about some mechanism for presenting as much real-time information as possible on members and their boats. When I look at the boat registries, I wonder 'is this boat being sailed regularly? How? Where? How much joy is she giving? Has she just had an adventure or mishap (hopefully not)? Any innovations or interesting projects? Voyages planned?' Or to put it another way, I'd like to be able to say "Well I'm off for a chowder run in Galway. I see Bob over in Sussex is channel hopping, while Fred up in Scotland is rigging his new mainsail, etc ..."
    Any tool would have to be extremely easy to use, and would generate a searchable database over time that would make for interesting reading. Hopefully owners would be sufficiently intrigued to contribute regularly, and would want to share this info without worrying about privacy issues.
    I still haven't found such a tool, but I did wonder about Twitter. If all members had an account, they could tweet their movements and prefix them with an agreed hash-tag, then one could easily follow all tweets for that group. It doesn't have all the functionality I described, but it's a start. On the downside, I'm a slightly reluctant Twit myself and I'm not sure the takeup would be huge.
    I'd be interested in any suggestions or examples, and whether others would be interesting in playing a little more with Twitter in this regard.


    Hi Declan (again !)

    Sorry I didnt spot you as a member, when I replied in Junksailor, a couple of days ago.

    You are completely correct in your comments and I thank you for them. To be clear, I am neither for or against Twitter. To me, it is just another possible communication tool which I am exploring, having decided some time ago that you have to keep looking at what the internet offers. It's most redeeming feature is probably that you are limited to 140 characters. So brevity is the rule. Amen, amen...

    In fact, it is probably already doomed, unless Twitter finds a way to stop or limit the increasing amount of commercial Tweets as, already, it is looking like some ticker-tape news-stream from CNN.

    However.....as you say, by keeping one's interests to the fore by hash-tagging key interest words, for the time being, I think it can be a powerful tool to connect with people and interests you wish to find and follow. And...it's free!

    I dont think it matters a jot whether the takeup is significant. We dont have corporate targets so, when just one person like Don Ramsey ( from Maldon - home port of the world's store of beautiful Thames Barges) responds and says he would like to know more about JR and have a sail in a JR boat, I think Twitter has done all I ask! But the further point is: how many other Dons are there, who may never spot our website but just may spot us via Twitter or Facebook, etc?  Many  websites now routinely have all the social/work media links in them, as they realise that people use the internet in different ways. We dont have to have new members. It's just fun to spread the word when you like what you do, isn't it?

    In terms of using Twitter to manage contacts -  like a boat registry  or contact list,- maybe the tools like www.hootsuite.com or tweetdeck.com or twellow.com would provide a way to do this. Have a look.

    Kind regards.

    Andrew

  • 22 Oct 2011 21:40
    Reply # 729732 on 729666
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    David Tyler wrote:
    Ketil Greve wrote:
    Declan McKinney wrote:
    Andrew Bailey wrote:

    As we are an increasingly international brigade, it will be interesting to see whether this will enable and attract enthusiasts' dialogue, 

    ...whether others would be interesting in playing a little more with Twitter in this regard.


    I guess we need to go to the Yacht Club Bar. That should be the perfect place for bragging, tall stories, and gossiping. We could even use "slightly clouded" as an excuse if seriousity should bring us down, ikke sant?

     

    I have to look in at Facebook (with my privacy settings tied up as tight as possible), or I wouldn't see my little grand-daughter growing up - it's the only way my daughters seem to communicate with the world. But I don't like it.
    I have yet to see any point or benefit in using Twitter, and have kept away.
    I had hoped that we could use these fora for all the uses that Andrew, Declan and Ketil mention. The "Bar" for social chat, the "Cruisers" for boat movements, the "Technical" for designing, building and modifying our boats and rigs, and so on. The one thing against doing everything here is that Wild Apricot does not (yet) fully support all the mobile devices and browsers. I can read these fora on my iPad, but can't write to them. That's a pity. If smart phones and tablets were fully supported, I wouldn't see any need to use any other social media.

    I can post with my Android 2.X phone, but the editor is stupid. I have to enter most html manually. If I want to new line I have to enter < followed by "br" followed by another >. Then, just to keep me from getting too befuddled, push carriage return so I'm also looking at a newline on screen.
    If I want emphasis I have to explicitly enter the html. It's awkward, as in: push number key, push alt, push < push spacebar which takes me back to alpha, push em, push number, push alt, push >. Html that requires opening and closing tags, like this, are even worse, because < and / are not on the same keyboard screen.
    And I only rarely sit down in front of a real computer.
    All that said, I strongly agree with David on the Twitter / Fakebook / Google+ / other social networking tools issue. This site is all I really want to check; I want to get my complete junk rig fix here. Much as I miss Arne I really don't want to even check the yahoo group.
    Jeff
    Last modified: 22 Oct 2011 22:05 | Deleted user
  • 22 Oct 2011 20:00
    Reply # 729666 on 729568
    Ketil Greve wrote:
    Declan McKinney wrote:
    Andrew Bailey wrote:

    As we are an increasingly international brigade, it will be interesting to see whether this will enable and attract enthusiasts' dialogue, 

    ...whether others would be interesting in playing a little more with Twitter in this regard.


    I guess we need to go to the Yacht Club Bar. That should be the perfect place for bragging, tall stories, and gossiping. We could even use "slightly clouded" as an excuse if seriousity should bring us down, ikke sant?

     

    I have to look in at Facebook (with my privacy settings tied up as tight as possible), or I wouldn't see my little grand-daughter growing up - it's the only way my daughters seem to communicate with the world. But I don't like it.
    I have yet to see any point or benefit in using Twitter, and have kept away.
    I had hoped that we could use these fora for all the uses that Andrew, Declan and Ketil mention. The "Bar" for social chat, the "Cruisers" for boat movements, the "Technical" for designing, building and modifying our boats and rigs, and so on. The one thing against doing everything here is that Wild Apricot does not (yet) fully support all the mobile devices and browsers. I can read these fora on my iPad, but can't write to them. That's a pity. If smart phones and tablets were fully supported, I wouldn't see any need to use any other social media.
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