The 'Haybox' & other composting toilets

  • 13 Apr 2016 15:55
    Reply # 3951541 on 679928
    Deleted user

    Urine is not sterile, containing plenty of bacteria, which may or may not be harmful, and lots of nitrogen.

    The artificial addition of nitrogen to the seawater enhances plant growth as David says. On a large scale, the addition of naturally and artificially-produced nitrogen causes eutrophication, and can lead to the development of harmful algal blooms. Eutrophication leads to enhanced phytoplankton growth which can deplete the oxygen in water, causing harm or death to heterotrophic (non-plant) organisms in the water.

    I speak as an ex-marine scientist and serial pee-er over the side.

  • 13 Apr 2016 13:42
    Reply # 3951316 on 679928

    Correct. Urine does nothing except fertilise the seaweed. You're pouring salty water into salty water.

  • 13 Apr 2016 13:34
    Reply # 3951311 on 679928

    Just wondering what you will do with 12l of urine.  Surely it just goes over the side (ok - when no one is looking)  - apparently it is sterile. 

  • 13 Apr 2016 09:54
    Reply # 3950496 on 679928

    I've placed my order, as follows:

    Kildwick Kompact Urine Separator × 1 £45.00

    Eco-Loo 'Quiet' Fan Kit - 12v × 1 £20.00

    20 litre Solid Waste Container × 1 £8.95

    12 Litre Urine Container - translucent × 1 £34.00

    BioBag 25 litre Compostable Bag - Roll of 25 × 1 £8.49

    Eco Urinal Blocks - Pack of 10 × 1 £7.00

    Subtotal: £123.44

    ( to this must be added a standard household toilet seat in solid wood)

    I reckon I can make a much more compact arrangement by building in an enclosure as part of the boat, rather than trying to fit in any of the proprietary fully-built units. My problem is headroom, and this seems to be quite a good solution, as the urine container is low (but quite large). I have plenty of room fore and aft, and that's good, because I will need a container of composting medium readily available.   


  • 12 Apr 2016 22:23
    Reply # 3949739 on 3942804
    David Tyler wrote:

    I was thinking that I'd have to get a C-Head sent over from the USA - and then I did a bit more research and found that there's now a UK firm that will supply all the necessary parts for a DIY composting head:

    http://www.littlehouse.co/


    That's interesting, David.  I wouldn't mind finding (a) a cheaper option and (b) one that doesn't require a US gallon bottle of particular size and shape.  If I were a bloke it would all be a lot easier, but we women have slightly different requirements!  If you can use their gear to fit a heads in the Duette's compartment, I should have no problems with SibLim's.  The trouble is importing the stuff without being clobbered for duty, customs charges, etc, etc.
    Last modified: 12 Apr 2016 22:25 | Anonymous member
  • 12 Apr 2016 21:01
    Reply # 3949610 on 3942804
    David Tyler wrote:

    I was thinking that I'd have to get a C-Head sent over from the USA - and then I did a bit more research and found that there's now a UK firm that will supply all the necessary parts for a DIY composting head:

    http://www.littlehouse.co/

    Hi David, we bought an AirHead from Littlehouse, very good service and a very good loo (it's been working as the workshop loo since 2013 with no smells or other problems)
  • 12 Apr 2016 10:35
    Reply # 3942804 on 679928

    I was thinking that I'd have to get a C-Head sent over from the USA - and then I did a bit more research and found that there's now a UK firm that will supply all the necessary parts for a DIY composting head:

    http://www.littlehouse.co/

  • 16 Mar 2014 11:29
    Reply # 1518520 on 1518437
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    Annie Hill wrote:That looks interesting Thierry.  Do you think the fact that it won't be sealed will be a problem?  I assume you'll be building some sort of bulkhead arrangement around it to stop it falling over.


    I am not intending to use it offshore or sailing, just in places where I need to hold for later disposal. Our standard toilet will remain a bucket. That has worked faultlessly for years.
    The snap lid is there to seal it when moving it. In fact I don't think I will use the Lavac cover, just the ring to be comfortably seated. But yes I will somehow stop it from moving about!

    We have an outhouse here at home with a sawdust bucket and even with no separation it doesn't stink as long the deposit is covered so I don't expect the poop alone to stink once covered. The big advantage with the separation is that the weight is greatly reduced.

    Cheers

    Thierry
    Last modified: 16 Mar 2014 11:31 | Deleted user
  • 16 Mar 2014 02:44
    Reply # 1518437 on 679928
    That looks interesting Thierry.  Do you think the fact that it won't be sealed will be a problem?  I assume you'll be building some sort of bulkhead arrangement around it to stop it falling over.

    Having just been harassed by the Harbourmaster again, it would be nice to have a composting toilet so that he can't imply that I dump my holding tank when it suits me. 
  • 15 Mar 2014 19:38
    Reply # 1518274 on 679928
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    I was assembling the housing for the toilet, my wife came along, had a quick look and said: you could just have a container inside the bucket and you don't need a tank.
    Of course she was right so I decided to change the concept and save myself hours of work. Why make it complicated when it can be so simple?
    This is what I made:
    https://picasaweb.google.com/thierry.msika/SeparatingToiletForIo?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCM72i5mG563cywE&feat=directlink
    I had all the parts lying around: Lavac toilet I found and never installed, bucket and mixing bowl.
    I think it will work. We will be testing it in the next few days.
    I'll let you know how it goes.

    Cheers

    Thierry
    Last modified: 15 Mar 2014 20:52 | Deleted user
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