The 'Haybox' & other composting toilets

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  • 26 Aug 2011 13:30
    Reply # 685291 on 679928

    My boss had to buy a commercial composting loo for his bothie, as his wife was not so keen on using the hillside.  Basically it is a fancy bucket with a stirring mechanism.  I think no advantage over the DIY option, which is foolproof and easier to keep clean. 

    Of course separation of liquids is essential,  then I always keep a large plastic jug handy - my No1 item of safety equipment!

    Mark

  • 26 Aug 2011 05:03
    Reply # 685061 on 679928
    Jeff,
    I think the C-Head quite neatly fills the middle ground between the bucket-and-sawdust and the truckload of $ for the Nature's Head.
    But I think that much of the cost of the C-Head is that the guy is offering to make you a nice plywood box to contain the works. I would rather build that box container into the boat myself, using the same standard of ply and coating as the rest of the interior.
    The job I like least aboard is cleaning and descaling the pump of my Lavac, and I think I could live with a composter, but I balk at $1k for a Nature's head. I wonder if I could buy "C-Head Lite", just the working parts? I'll ask.
  • 26 Aug 2011 02:55
    Reply # 684933 on 679928
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    Hey Jeff...I've looked at a few sites and the drift I'm getting is some will say that you should seperate the liquids from the solids (doesn't that sound...well nice???) and then other sites just use a five gallon bucket and sprinkle the shavings on top and don't have any issues with smell....and then some of these sites will say you need a 12v fan and others don't even consider it... One site I went to had a molded 'bowl' for DIY that diverted the urine into a seperate container, about $130 +/- u.s.....which is way cheaper then the $1k for the comercial marine grade composting head.  I'm leaning towards the plain jane bucket...at least that is what I will start with and if I can't take the odor, well we will try plan B....but either way, I do like the idea.

  • 25 Aug 2011 19:26
    Reply # 684675 on 679928
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    I was reading a recent post on a very long thread on this same subject on another site I frequent and found a link: http://c-head.com. They commercially manufacture such a product for about half the cost of the competition and it looks to me to be twice as well thought out. Maybe enough to justify the cost.
  • 22 Aug 2011 14:20
    Reply # 681971 on 679928
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    Neil et al, It seems like treating the byproduct as "waste," i.e. dumping it with the porta pottie waste, is, well, a waste, at least for those of us who have primary quarters on land.
    Now if I can just convince Gloria of that part...
    Jeff
  • 22 Aug 2011 13:46
    Reply # 681966 on 680186
    Neil Tanner wrote:
    Mark Thomasson wrote:

    Getting back to a thread of a while back:

    Recently I got rid of my smelly, dificult to keep clean, marine toilet, and thus rid of two holes in the boat. 

    I am just back from a weeks cruise and tried out a 'haybox'.  I had read about composting wc so thought it worth a try.   It is simply a large tub with sealing lid, over which is a toilet seat.  Inside the tub is an Ecover biodegradable plastic bag. Line with a layer of grass clippings and after use a layer on top.  Dispose, well out to sea, by placing a rock in the bag and dropping over for the fishes supper. 

    The smell was similar to a farmyard (suprise suprise) not offensive,  and none with tub lid on.  Success so far.  It was used for only a couple of days between disposal.  Perhaps anther couple of days would be ok.

     


    Mark, that's encouraging.  I removed the "PnP" during the rebuild of Sea Elf and plan on using something similar to your 'haybox'.  Just wondering, since you're heading offshore to dump, could you eliminate the bag and just dump the contents overboard followed by an over-the-side rinse?  My plan for now is to use the bucket and wood shavings and when time to empty (still inside the three mile limit here in the States) I could dispose of it in the facility used for dumping porta-potties followed by wash down from the hose nearby....   thanks for posting...I had been concerned with the odor, but it sounds like that won't be too much of an issue.


    Mark, after posting a reply, I checked into TinyHouse Blog and look at what they had on the top of the list for today!
    http://tinyhouseblog.com/tiny-furnishings/how-to-make-a-composting-toilet/


    Well, yes you could just wash it out, but could be messy and leave smells in the tub.  the advantage of a bag is that when full or there too long,  knot the top untill somewhere suitable for disposal.  At £2.50 for 10, not cheap as plastic bags go, but at max of 25p a 'dump', not expensive.  Definately with the $10 challenge!
  • 20 Aug 2011 13:07
    Reply # 680655 on 679928
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    Need to get the poop on poop? Go to http://humanurehandbook.com/ and purchase their ebook. We're using a home built Lovable Loo in our Cape Breton residence with great success in producing compost as described by this book.

    For boats we have seen the AirHead used successfully and this too can be home built with a bucket and adapter for urine collection. We know some people who swear by this system and it only needs periodic emptying.

    These are possible solutions as restrictions on overboard waste disposal become even stricter.
  • 19 Aug 2011 21:16
    Reply # 680186 on 679928
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    Mark Thomasson wrote:

    Getting back to a thread of a while back:

    Recently I got rid of my smelly, dificult to keep clean, marine toilet, and thus rid of two holes in the boat. 

    I am just back from a weeks cruise and tried out a 'haybox'.  I had read about composting wc so thought it worth a try.   It is simply a large tub with sealing lid, over which is a toilet seat.  Inside the tub is an Ecover biodegradable plastic bag. Line with a layer of grass clippings and after use a layer on top.  Dispose, well out to sea, by placing a rock in the bag and dropping over for the fishes supper. 

    The smell was similar to a farmyard (suprise suprise) not offensive,  and none with tub lid on.  Success so far.  It was used for only a couple of days between disposal.  Perhaps anther couple of days would be ok.

     


    Mark, that's encouraging.  I removed the "PnP" during the rebuild of Sea Elf and plan on using something similar to your 'haybox'.  Just wondering, since you're heading offshore to dump, could you eliminate the bag and just dump the contents overboard followed by an over-the-side rinse?  My plan for now is to use the bucket and wood shavings and when time to empty (still inside the three mile limit here in the States) I could dispose of it in the facility used for dumping porta-potties followed by wash down from the hose nearby....   thanks for posting...I had been concerned with the odor, but it sounds like that won't be too much of an issue.


    Mark, after posting a reply, I checked into TinyHouse Blog and look at what they had on the top of the list for today!
    http://tinyhouseblog.com/tiny-furnishings/how-to-make-a-composting-toilet/

    Last modified: 19 Aug 2011 22:03 | Deleted user
  • 19 Aug 2011 14:08
    Message # 679928

    Getting back to a thread of a while back:

    Recently I got rid of my smelly, dificult to keep clean, marine toilet, and thus rid of two holes in the boat. 

    I am just back from a weeks cruise and tried out a 'haybox'.  I had read about composting wc so thought it worth a try.   It is simply a large tub with sealing lid, over which is a toilet seat.  Inside the tub is an Ecover biodegradable plastic bag. Line with a layer of grass clippings and after use a layer on top.  Dispose, well out to sea, by placing a rock in the bag and dropping over for the fishes supper. 

    The smell was similar to a farmyard (suprise suprise) not offensive,  and none with tub lid on.  Success so far.  It was used for only a couple of days between disposal.  Perhaps anther couple of days would be ok.

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