The 'Haybox' & other composting toilets

  • 14 Dec 2013 20:24
    Reply # 1458252 on 679928
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    Shemaya, thanks for those ideas and kind words about the site. I've added your links to our Junk Information > Useful Links > Members Blogs & Sites page. Also to Junk Information > Useful Links > Sails, Masts and Gear, where there are two composting heads sections. Great to have you onboard, and if you've any time to kill before you start that junk conversion, take a look at our Join In pages!

    Brian.
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  • 14 Dec 2013 01:01
    Reply # 1457885 on 679928

    Hi… Can't believe this is the topic that I'm jumping in on for a first hello, but it's the one I know the most about… I have a Bolger Chebacco (that will hopefully have a junk rig starting in the northern spring of 2014) and it has a homemade version of a separating composting head. I lived aboard the boat for seven months in 2012, and for four months in 2013, and the system worked out well.

    I'm sorry to say that I do use peat moss, but that's because I have serious respiratory reactions to about a million different things, sadly including coir, and sawdust, and wood shavings. Coir would be fantastic, if not for that issue.

    On the subject of smells and composting heads, it really does make a big difference to separate the liquids and solids. In the humanure book they talk about not doing that separating, but the reason that it works is because on land you can use loads of cellulose-type material in each bucket, because you have loads of space in the outdoor pile. Urine has lots of nitrogen, and if that nitrogen has lots of cellulose to work on (I think it bonds with the carbon – it's been a while since I read the book), there's no problem – but if the nitrogen gets to sit with other nitrogen, the nitrogens bond and become ammonia – hence the smell. Poop on the other hand is not high in nitrogen, so does surprisingly well with a very moderate amount of cellulose-type material to cover it.

    I did a blog this year, sailing, and there's an entry devoted to the homemade version of an airhead. I did spend about $100 on a dividing plastic toilet bowl made for composting outhouses, the "privy kit" http://www.ecovita.net/privy.html but otherwise the materials are pretty basic. If anybody is interested, you can see the post here: http://sailingauklet.com/2013/09/22/homemade-composting-head/

    I haven't yet tried putting sugar in the urine container, because I dump it each day and the container is a 1 gallon plastic jug like for bottled water or milk, and it's easy to change it out when it gets nasty. They last a good while if they are rinsed when emptied. I did however add a holding tank to the boat, for liquids, for in case of being somewhere for longer than two or three days that really wasn't appropriate for dumping pee over the side. Cuttyhunk inner harbor, and the Great Salt Pond at Block Island, Rhode Island, USA are places like that. But as it happened, this year I never stayed someplace like that for long enough to need the tank. That's nice, because it's still brand-new clean… But I was planning to sail to Canada, where they say that a holding tank is a requirement, so at least the boat is something like legal. Anyway, on the sugar, I think it would be really good in the "liquids only" holding tank. Maybe it works because sugar has so much carbon, and that bonds with the nitrogen? It's so simple, compared to commercial head treatments…

    Anyway, thanks for the great website – what a tremendous, and broad, collection of information.

    Best regards,

    Shemaya Laurel

  • 06 Nov 2013 20:23
    Reply # 1429246 on 679928
    Gary we only use the air freshener in the head and the smell is not too bad. We just find the the smell of lemons to be nicer.:)
    What I need to find is a raw sawdust replacement, something that will break down in the compost bin faster than raw sawdust.
  • 06 Nov 2013 13:02
    Reply # 1428861 on 679928
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    If you need to use air freshener in the cabin, not just the head, then there's something wrong. FWIW, Coco-peat is a miracle worker. The foul odour in the head has vanished. But your's is not a separating composting loo? No idea if coco-peat would work with that.
  • 04 Nov 2013 21:50
    Reply # 1427742 on 679928
    I will have see if I can find a supplier here. I don't mind the sawdust option but it doesn't compost easily. We use a little air freshener spray as well...makes life bearable for others in the cabin.
  • 03 Nov 2013 11:00
    Reply # 1426812 on 679928
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    The saw dust experiment is done and it makes for a smelly loo, we found a hydroponics store which was packed to the rafters with sacks of coco-peat and it is a much nicer solution. Don't want to use sawdust again..
  • 21 Oct 2013 11:44
    Reply # 1417900 on 679928
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    Sounds like a solution but think of all those air or ship miles :-(
  • 21 Oct 2013 01:20
    Reply # 1417625 on 679928
    In Prince Rupert, I went to the builder's merchant and scrounged some sawdust from the shop vac attached to the table saw. It worked, but gives off a strong acrid smell.

    Here in Nanaimo, Greg took me to a store that has "BeatsPeat" brand of cocofibre, in packs of four slabs, for less money than I was paying for single slabs, and some of that money goes to WWF Canada. There's a message on the pack about how peat bogs take 220 years to recover from one year's extraction, and how cocofibre is hyper-renewable. 

    So I bought about a year's supply for $40. 
  • 16 Sep 2013 06:02
    Reply # 1390247 on 679928
    We've used our bucket and dry sawdust method for up to 4 days now and it works well. We add our vege scraps as well but then our bucket goes into a compost bin at home.
  • 14 Sep 2013 23:50
    Reply # 1389420 on 679928
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    Bucket, bag, wood shavings, lid.....liquids separate container.....deposit bag in bin after several days.....no odor....  it's been working for me for almost two years..... 
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