Redwing

  • 29 May 2013 23:27
    Reply # 1304869 on 644008
    We took a couple of friends for a bit of a sail yesterday and had a few good moments. The wind was generally light but the gusts of 10-15 kns had us heeling with all sail up and making at best around 4 kns to windward to windward. Down wind with the tide we almost hit 5 kns a couple of times. I'm really looking forward to the day when we get into some decent water and can get some decent sailing. Small rivers can be very frustrating.
  • 21 May 2013 11:06
    Reply # 1297661 on 644008
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Stavanger, Tuesday

    I guess I would choose engine size depending of how well the boat sails to windward and how my home harbours is. If my only concern was to get home when the wind died, then 3-4 hp would have been enough to push my 3 ton Johanna. However, although, my harbour is well protected from swell or currents, the place can be quite windy. For this reason backing out of the berth and getting the boat moving (and turning) quickly enough calls for quite some power. The vectored thrust of a powerful outboard is particularly welcome when a stiff breeze pushes on that thick mast. There isn’t that much room for error here and even a 6hp engine would be on the small side.

    Now I just had a look on the web. Yamaha still makes a range of engines with high-thrust legs (FT series). They not only have special propellers, but the gear ratio is around 3:1 against the normal 2:1. I notice that they are e bit lighter than the model I have since they now use around 200ccm engines. The 45kg 8hp model FT8DMX (manual start, extra long leg) could be an alternative on Redwing, or what do you think? It also comes in versions with electric start and even with remote control. I guess other makers also have similar models.

    After a few years with an adjustable bracket, I found a position which the engine worked well in, both for sailing and motoring, so replaced the adjustable bracket with a fixed one to bring the engine closer to the boat. If you install a bracket that moves up and down on rails, sort of, the trick is simply to install a 2- or 3-part tackle (What is it called?) to raise and lower the engine. I had that on Malena.

    Cheers, Arne

     

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  • 21 May 2013 01:10
    Reply # 1297430 on 644008
    The 32ft Footprints and her sister Shoestring, both have the 9.9 and seem to think they are more than adequate.  I'd have thought that carefully mounted and, as Arne recommends, with a big prop, 6 hp should be plenty.  And of course the boat will sail better anyway, so most of the time you'll be crossing the bar under sail.  More and more people on boats of our size are going for the outboard option because the cost of installing a new inboard is almost as much as the boat is worth.  There are lots of other advantages, too.
  • 20 May 2013 22:13
    Reply # 1297316 on 644008
    Arne your outboard is the one that has been recommended I buy. My plan is to mount it on the end of the bumpkin. I would prefer the 9.9 but 40 kgs seems a lot to manhandle. I could fabricate a small davit to make fitting and removal of the motor easier. At 26kgs the 6hp sounds good but I wonder if it would be powerful enough for crossing river bars? Redwing weighs around 2.7-3 tonne.
    You've given me some great info there thanks.
    Last modified: 20 May 2013 23:29 | Anonymous member
  • 20 May 2013 16:43
    Reply # 1296976 on 644008
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Stavanger, Monday

    This sounds like a good idea, Gary.

    When I bought Johanna, I knew that her diesel was gone, so went for an outboard, a 324ccm/9.9hp/50kg Yamaha 4-stroke with extra long leg and high-thrust propeller. I’ve never regretted that since this gives the easiest harbour manoeuvres you can think of. On flat water the top speed is 6.3kts and I’ve recorded a consumption of 0,5 l/NMi when throttled back to 5.8kts. I went for manual-start as the electric-start version didn’t have recoil start as backup. One really useful thing was the gear-shift lever on the steering handle: During harbour manoeuvres I sit on the pushpit, controlling the tiller with my foot, and throttle/gear with my right hand, all without losing the overview. The four-stroke engine of course never stalls after a few seconds warming up. In the empty engine-room I fitted a specially made plywood box which is bolted to the original engine bed. Here I keep water and paraffin, nice and tidy and quickly accessible.

    I would spend some time with the sketch book to make the best possible outboard bracket, if I were you. The best would be if the height of the motor could be easily adjusted to suit the seastate and number of people on board. Redwing’s short counter is well suited for the outboard engine, much better than Johanna. I guess your choice is between a 1-cylinder 6hp thing (around 26kg) or a 2-cylinder 8-10hp at around 40(?)kg). Ask for a propeller meant for pushing a big boat.

    Good luck! Arne

  • 20 May 2013 12:29
    Reply # 1296795 on 644008
    Last Wednesday the 15th we hauled Redwing out for some maintenance. Apart from some barnacle growth we found that the keel timber had cracked a few glue lines which couldn't be fixed in the time we had. We will have to haul out again sometime down the track, let her dry out and fibreglass the keel I think. Apart from that all was good and we raised the waterline, as in painted the new black antifoul higher up the hull. We were back in the water by 1pm the next day.
    The big decision is that we are going to replace the inboard with an outboard as the heavy inboard is pushing the stern down more than we are happy with. The present engine space will become our new icebox.
  • 12 May 2013 15:40
    Reply # 1291276 on 644008
    Deleted user
    They have a $99 GPS too.
  • 12 May 2013 12:01
    Reply # 1291208 on 1291154
    Gary King wrote:Whitworths have a good deal on EPIRBs atm, includes a bunch of other goodies.
    That is a good deal. No GPS but I'd buy it if I had the $$$ to spare.
    Oh Lord, my needs are small, send money.:)
  • 12 May 2013 07:07
    Reply # 1291154 on 644008
    Deleted user
    Whitworths have a good deal on EPIRBs atm, includes a bunch of other goodies.
  • 12 May 2013 00:00
    Reply # 1291044 on 644008
    Next Wednesday, weather permitting will see Redwing up on the slip for some maintenance and hopefully an end to the leaking keel bolts.
    Once that is out of the way the next priority will be the building of a tender and acquiring the legal requirements such as flares and epirb we need before putting to sea. Even though our first sea voyage will be all of 15 nms.
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