Daisy Mae resto-mod build

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  • 01 Dec 2018 01:05
    Reply # 6940655 on 6315683

    Good to read the update.

    Before actually embarking on any of these major alterations (bilge keels, huge battery banks) it would be well to just get her seaworthy and fitted out in the simple way which becomes this type of vessel, and see how she goes. You might be pleasantly surprised. She looks to me, in the way she has been built and fitted out, to have integrity. Convert her into something else and you risk losing that. 

    Whatever you decide, I wish you the joy of it and hope to hear more about it. And in addition, I still do hope that you can persuade the original owner to write us an article describing the concept and how she came into being, in Hong Kong. That would be a real treat.


    Last modified: 01 Dec 2018 08:42 | Anonymous member
  • 30 Nov 2018 08:26
    Reply # 6939173 on 6937202
    Anonymous wrote:

    A bit of an update. The boat is comimg together slower than I would like as Ive found significantly more water damage and rot issues then expected. Still chugging along on the project though. 

    I have several ideas I would appreciate input on from you savy folks.

    I intend to put bilge keels on the vessel so that it will track better, sit level in a tidal flat, and help with righting motion in a knock down. I spoke to a fellow who lived in hong kong for a while and said this was very popular modification on the motor junks. I was hoping to salvage a pair but have yet to find a donor boat. No luck yet, any ideas on constructing some? 

    I found a soft spot in the keel so I pulled the floor boards to check the whole beam and found the lead was just stacked and wedged into it. It was never melted or epoxied in.... Bad news in a knock down. My last boat had a cement with iron ingot balast with a cement floor. I quite liked it. The keel was good, and I hardened the small soft spot with thinned epoxy. I am considering stacking the lead back in, then pouring marine cement in the hold to gain a bit more ballast, hold everything in place, and make a nice smooth floor with no need in trying to cut fine wood to fit. I figure just paint it and use exterior carrpet. Thoughts?

    I am considering using only electric appliances. I have a charging system on my diesel, plan on a 400 to 600 ah batterey bank and would carry an emergency camp stove. I got a small household convection oven for a great price and love it. This got me thinking about an induction stove aswell. It would be great and a major cost saving. The nice diesel units still heat up the whole boat and arent as easy. If I go this route I will use house hold units adapted for the cost saving. For the price of a dickonson I can have a great solar electic system. Input? Anyone run all Electric?

    I have a pair of barlow 16 winches I am considering mounting ro the hailiards on the coach roof. Idk, I have them and dont know what to do with them. Maybe use them for adjusting a horizontal windvane?

    I am planning a horizontal windvane since I have a huge rudder. I should be able to balance the schooner rig the have the rudder true to be under the control of the vane. Tips on this sort of gear? My rudder is massive.

    Fair weather and following seas. 


    I've had successful results with a slurry of dry sand and resin, mixed in a bucket, and also with lead shot to fill the gaps between the ingots and resin poured over. It seems to me that your boat is asking for epoxy resin rather than cement, to bond to the wood and eliminate pockets of moisture.

    All your other ideas: I'd put on hold until you have some seatime and know how she handles and what she's like to live with at sea as well as in harbour. You don't yet know for sure whether bilge runners are a good idea, and I doubt it.

    Only big high-budget boats are really suited to going all electric, and they carry a genset. A 30ft boat will have a job to carry more than 200AH of battery. Stick with diesel for heating and alcohol for cooking.

    Only by going to sea under sail can one decide what kind of self steering will suit her, but I can say for sure that it won't be a vane-to-tiller, more likely a vane-to-pendulum-to-tiller gear.

  • 29 Nov 2018 22:18
    Reply # 6938642 on 6315683

    Sorry, there's only what you see in that article. Somewhere, I might still have the paper drawing of the hatch, but it would be of limited application to other boats.

    Last modified: 29 Nov 2018 22:18 | Anonymous member
  • 29 Nov 2018 21:12
    Reply # 6938585 on 6315683

    Thanks! Its great to have some pics. Ive been using the pjr. Did you make your own hatch? Did you do a write up on that?

  • 29 Nov 2018 18:53
    Reply # 6938425 on 6937202
    James wrote:

    Can someone link me to good pram hood building resource? Thanks.


    Pramhood article
  • 28 Nov 2018 22:25
    Reply # 6937202 on 6315683

    A bit of an update. The boat is comimg together slower than I would like as Ive found significantly more water damage and rot issues then expected. Still chugging along on the project though. 

    I have several ideas I would appreciate input on from you savy folks.

    I intend to put bilge keels on the vessel so that it will track better, sit level in a tidal flat, and help with righting motion in a knock down. I spoke to a fellow who lived in hong kong for a while and said this was very popular modification on the motor junks. I was hoping to salvage a pair but have yet to find a donor boat. No luck yet, any ideas on constructing some? 


    I found a soft spot in the keel so I pulled the floor boards to check the whole beam and found the lead was just stacked and wedged into it. It was never melted or epoxied in.... Bad news in a knock down. My last boat had a cement with iron ingot balast with a cement floor. I quite liked it. The keel was good, and I hardened the small soft spot with thinned epoxy. I am considering stacking the lead back in, then pouring marine cement in the hold to gain a bit more ballast, hold everything in place, and make a nice smooth floor with no need in trying to cut fine wood to fit. I figure just paint it and use exterior carrpet. Thoughts?

    I am considering using only electric appliances. I have a charging system on my diesel, plan on a 400 to 600 ah batterey bank and would carry an emergency camp stove. I got a small household convection oven for a great price and love it. This got me thinking about an induction stove aswell. It would be great and a major cost saving. The nice diesel units still heat up the whole boat and arent as easy. If I go this route I will use house hold units adapted for the cost saving. For the price of a dickonson I can have a great solar electic system. Input? Anyone run all Electric?


    Can someone link me to good pram hood building resource? Thanks.

    I have a pair of barlow 16 winches I am considering mounting ro the hailiards on the coach roof. Idk, I have them and dont know what to do with them. Maybe use them for adjusting a horizontal windvane?

    I am planning a horizontal windvane since I have a huge rudder. I should be able to balance the schooner rig the have the rudder true to be under the control of the vane. Tips on this sort of gear? My rudder is massive.

    Fair weather and following seas. 

    Last modified: 29 Nov 2018 00:52 | Anonymous member
  • 18 Jun 2018 01:38
    Reply # 6317618 on 6315683

    And speaking of lead, lucky you, you got her for about what the lead would have cost in New Zealand (I did the sums.) I am still interested and hope eventually to read something about her design and background, have a hunch there is an interesting story here.

    For years I have been looking for a low cost comfortable little expedition boat for the upper reaches of our somewhat ignored Kaipara Harbour. Had she been in New Zealand I think Daisy Mae might have been the one. Good luck with her, and make sure you pry the story out of the previous owner and the builder, and get it into the magazine.

    Last modified: 18 Jun 2018 01:41 | Anonymous member
  • 17 Jun 2018 15:52
    Reply # 6317028 on 6315683

    She is somewhere between 26 and 30 feet with a 10 foot beam. I need to run the tape to check still. Lead in the keel puts her over 10000 lbs. The hull on this thing reminds me of a duck.


    Bottom sanding done, and epoxy is about to go into a couple of small hairlines I opened up.

    Last modified: 18 Jun 2018 16:34 | Anonymous member
  • 16 Jun 2018 23:44
    Reply # 6316422 on 6315683

    now that's a good looking boat, and so many simple yet effective mods, the raised decks around the mizzen and fore mast must make sail handling so much easier and safer.


    How long is she?

  • 16 Jun 2018 15:23
    Reply # 6316109 on 6315683

    Yes sir it is! The fellow who had the boat for about 40 years is also thrilled I am taking on this project. He is proving to be a wonderful resource and friend!

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