Excessive Electronic Media Exposure

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  • 01 Feb 2018 22:23
    Reply # 5713485 on 5681480

    Phil,
    I agree about the social media problems. In my experience, selectively using Facebook for moderated "groups" takes care of that nicely, as far as one's own personal experience. Of course, that doesn't do much for the larger issues…

    At any rate, I am enormously glad for this group here! And everybody in it :-)

    Shemaya

  • 01 Feb 2018 22:13
    Reply # 5713470 on 5681480

    Rodney,

    That is absolutely a concern, the invasion of spammers. For this reason I entertain myself by investigating each person who asks to join the group, enough to see that their public Facebook page seems real. I mostly enjoy this, as it moves me firmly outside any possible bubble of only seeing material from like-minded individuals! It's amazing how many people who like motorcycles are also inclined to join a junk rig group.

    "Of course every one else is having a better time. They always do." – I love that! And am also of the generation that grew up raising our own heck, which involved a surprising amount of actual dirt.

    Lucky for your dad, that he did not go overboard with your glasses. And that the entire experience did nothing to discourage a lifetime of sailing!

    Cheers,
    Shemaya

  • 01 Feb 2018 18:27
    Reply # 5712805 on 5681480
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    Shemaya,

    Thank you for your interesting piece. I think that all I'm really saying is how many "sites" does one want to participate in? I find the JRA site quite sufficient. It takes enough time to wade through JRA stuff let alone any more! SO of course, each to their own, but I do remember years ago when the junk rig yahoo group was infiltrated by spammers and it drove me bonkers to wit 25 emails every 24 hours for months. Enough said.

    Others have commented on the bad effect for the young of seeing "all" the people they know perceivably, the important word, having a "better time" than them. Surely that is just a question of parental  education for life. Of course every one else is having a better time. They always do. They are all also richer, wiser, have better opportunities etc etc so get over it, or get ambitious and work hard and life is bloody unfair. 

     My parents were always saying to us young boys "we can't afford it" but I'll tell you we had the most loving upbringing and wonderful holidays without any luxury. Playing in mud, walking the beach and having my glasses knocked off my head into the sea by the swinging boom of a dinghy the first time I ever went sailing, in the Alde Estuary. I could no longer distinguish between where the sea ended and the shore began, so we went home. No sympathy from dad! What would have happened if he had fallen overboard and I could not see him?..............

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  • 01 Feb 2018 10:20
    Reply # 5712309 on 5681480

    I see no need to apologize, Phil. I think it's all been quite interesting

  • 01 Feb 2018 01:32
    Reply # 5711985 on 5681480
    Deleted user

    I'm afraid I've done it and let my intense frustration intrude into this safe junk rig zone.  I am not critical of any individual's right to free speech, only those state sponsored and funded trolls and bots.  I apologize and will stick to the topics that are the intent of this great site.

  • 31 Jan 2018 17:08
    Reply # 5710959 on 5681480

    I'm not a fan of social media, but it seems to me that if those "Enemies of Democracy" don't have just as much right to be heard as anybody else, no matter how full of beans they are, then free speech is dead, and democracy along with it.


    I just wish that Trump would stay off twitter.


    Thanks for the link to JRA on Facebook, maybe that'll give me something to like about social media :)


    Bill F.

  • 31 Jan 2018 03:39
    Reply # 5710202 on 5681480
    Deleted user

    I had thought that the pluses and minuses of social media as mixed. For example as a former school counselor I saw increased damage done. While I am not on Facebook many in my family get great pleasure in connecting. That has changed for me when It became clear that social media has become an effective tool for enemies of democracy to spread fear, lies and discord and influence national elelctions.  I don’t have an answer. I am afraid I would love to see these sites disappear but I also certainly can’t criticize anyone who uses social media in fun or helpful ways.  That’s what we do here on a narrow scale.

  • 30 Jan 2018 19:21
    Reply # 5709491 on 5681480

    Rodney,

    Technically, the International Junk Rig Facebook group is not a project of the JRA, although there is some overlap between the two groups in both membership and administration. The junk rig Facebook group has been entertaining, and occasionally useful, for those of us who are on Facebook anyway. Nothing breaks up a dense bunch of political work (those of us who live in Trumpland are using Facebook quite a bit) like a sweet photo of a junk rig boat in the middle of all the lousy news!

    As the Facebook group has been gradually getting more established, it's been interesting to see quite a few people join who have no apparent connection with junk rig. Some of us also consider that an advantage of having that venue available, as a way to get the word out. Bonus, one of the first things they see is information about the JRA. And it's fascinating to see the occasional grumpy Facebook junk rig group participants, who for whatever their reasons are opposed to joining the JRA, even though they are out there sailing their own junk rig boats!

    So I guess there's something there for all of us, whatever we prefer ;-)

    Cheers,
    Shemaya

    PS For anybody reading this who is interested in the International Junk Rig: Sailing Old and New Facebook group, it can be found here.

    Last modified: 30 Jan 2018 19:39 | Anonymous member
  • 30 Jan 2018 15:05
    Reply # 5708978 on 5681480

    Tony - I am not sure it counts as peer reviewed research, but I have had this report,  which covers both the positives and negatives for young people, saved for discussion at the school where I work.

    One line stuck in my mind when I first read it: "Seeing friends constantly on holiday or enjoying nights out can make young people feel like they are missing out while others enjoy life."

    Not for any professional reasons, but as that is how I sometimes feel when I look at boats sailing on social media, when my boat is still in the back yard!  Still, I generally accept that I probably enjoy it almost as much at home, where I can gain great satisfaction from building a new cabinet that works, as I will on the water.  And the vicarious sailing of social media is not without its pleasures.

    Last modified: 30 Jan 2018 15:06 | Anonymous member
  • 30 Jan 2018 10:10
    Reply # 5708702 on 5681480

    I think we need to be a little careful here. The multitude of uncontrollable perameters means that it is pretty much impossible to prove very much at all in the social sciences, so whilst I'd agree that being "hooked" on anything is probably bad for you (even here a hedge is necessary), I doubt very much that any peer-reviewed research proves that the use of social media is bad for you. As the father of 3 kids all in the 15 - 25 age group, my experience suggests the claim that people in this age group would rather communicate online than meet friends in real life to be the nonsense it appears.

    Social media are relatively new forms of communication that offer significant advantages in the sharing of knowledge and experience. I feel that dismissing them would not be advantageous.

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