Largest wave ever recorded.

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  • 23 Dec 2016 18:42
    Reply # 4474486 on 4458834

    Bonjour

    Michel Olagnon a rogue waves expert from Ifremer wrote a marvelous book on the subject. It was translated to English by Roger Taylor:

    "Rogue Waves: Anatomy of a monster"

    http://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/rogue-waves-9781472944429/

    En français:

    "Anatomie curieuse des vagues scélérates"

    http://www.quae.com/fr/r3904-anatomie-curieuse-des-vagues-scelerates.html

    A marvelous book any offshore sailor should have in mind.

    Eric

  • 23 Dec 2016 18:20
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    Graham Cox wrote:
    Arne Kverneland wrote:

    I am not impressed. If you present a 14m wave as "phenomenal"  to workers on the oilrigs in the North Sea (British or Norwegian sector), they will fall on their backs, laughing.

    Arne


    It might look different if you were out there on a small vessel!

    PS:  I am glad I am not!


    Hardly anyone I know laughs at the largest waves ever ridden.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XpU5M0ZCKM

  • 22 Dec 2016 21:58
    Reply # 4472985 on 4472900
    Arne Kverneland wrote:

    I am not impressed. If you present a 14m wave as "phenomenal"  to workers on the oilrigs in the North Sea (British or Norwegian sector), they will fall on their backs, laughing.

    Arne


    It might look different if you were out there on a small vessel!

    PS:  I am glad I am not!


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  • 22 Dec 2016 20:45
    Reply # 4472900 on 4458834
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    I am not impressed. If you present a 14m wave as "phenomenal"  to workers on the oilrigs in the North Sea (British or Norwegian sector), they will fall on their backs, laughing.

    Arne

  • 22 Dec 2016 18:40
    Reply # 4471982 on 4458834

    With Storm Barbara bearing down on the north west of Scotland, I thought I'd have a look at the shipping forecast.

    Bailey: F9 - 11, occasionally 12 later. Sea state: High or very high, occasionally phenomenal later.

    Phenomenal is 'wave height over 14m, 46ft'. 

  • 16 Dec 2016 13:38
    Reply # 4463254 on 4458834

    When they refer to wave height, do they not actually mean swell height?  Not sure if the buoy could differentiate between a swell and a wave (ie breaking face of a swell?)

    The link to the BBC shows a picture of some smallish waves on a beach, with a big cloud in the background - or do my eyes deceive me?

    Whatever - no the place any sane person would wish to be - I have been following the Vendee Globe on the Red Bull app - now those guys really are insane! 

  • 14 Dec 2016 23:18
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    Few, if any, data buoys down there, I suspect. The wave data for the Southern Ocean will have come from Synthetic Aperture Radar or other satellite-borne altimeters. Not so accurate as an inertial sensor on the surface, but still pretty good - within a few cms.

    Chris

  • 14 Dec 2016 23:06
    Reply # 4460476 on 4458834

    David Lewis told me, after his Antarctic voyage in Icebird, that he had underestimated the power of the Southern Ocean.  He had crossed the North Atlantic in autumn, from New York to England, aboard his Vertue, Cardinal Vertue, in 1960, surviving several serious gales, and thought he had seen some heavy weather. 

    My experience of the Southern Ocean in 1980 remains etched in my mind.  We only had one serious storm, mostly it was just cold and rough, with a huge SW swell.  One day, another swell began building from due South and got bigger all day.  Just before sunset, the wind switched from SW Force 8 to S Force 10-12 (we had no instruments).  The seas rapidly built to about 30 ft, which our 55ft schooner, Ishmael, handled without too much difficulty, running off under bare poles at about 7 knots, with the three of us taking turns at the helm of about an hour at a time.  After an hour at the helm, I was unable to feel my hands or feet, due to the icy blast of that Antarctic wind. We had no proper cold weather clothing.  A few hours later, sets of much larger waves began to come through, once every half an hour or so.  These waves were about 50ft or so and breaking heavily.  Ishmael began to struggle, and once, when I was on the helm, we came within a whisker of being pitch-poled.  It would have been interesting to see some wave buoy data for that storm but I doubt if there is anything like that down there.  It really is God-forsaken country.

    The larger waves may have been caused by the remnants of the SW swell, which had been about 20 ft but very long.  The big waves in the storm were quite steep, and breaking heavily, with crests of at least 4ft.  I once saw two waves collide in another storm in the Tasman Sea in 1974.  I was lying ahull in my 24ft ketch, Poeme, with seas about 20 ft or so, which were knocking the little old boat around a bit but we seemed to be ok.  Then I saw, some distance off, one wave appear to climb up the back of another, until the combined height was almost double.  The wave underneath then seemed to collapse and the whole lot came down in an avalanche of roaring white water that I could clearly hear above the scream of the wind.  I scuttled below and hid in my bunk.

    The height of waves is one thing, but their pitch and speed is something else again, as anyone who has ever been in a tidal race will remember.

  • 14 Dec 2016 21:35
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    Annie Hill wrote:Sounds surprising, but there we are. 

    I was surprised, too. According to the World Meteorological Office:

    "The highest waves typically occur in the North Atlantic, rather than the Southern Ocean. Wind circulation patterns and atmospheric pressure in the North Atlantic in winter leads to intense extra-tropical storms, often so-called "bombs". This means that the area from the Grand Banks underwater plateaus off the Canadian coast around Newfoundland to south of Iceland and to the west coast of the UK, including the Rockall Trough, are prime candidates for wave records."


  • 14 Dec 2016 20:19
    Reply # 4460163 on 4458834
    Chris Gallienne wrote:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38312935

    Be interesting to see some wave buoy data from the Southern Ocean.

    Chris


    Doesn't look very impressive, does it? Looks like my photos of big waves! Amazing that such an enormous wave was produced from not particularly strong winds, too.  I wonder if it was because the wind switched very rapidly from SW to NW.


    They were talking about it on the radio, here (in NZ) yesterday, to a met specialist.  The same question was asked and she said that, in fact most of these massive waves have been recorded in the North Atlantic 'that's where they have the biggest waves'.  Sounds surprising, but there we are.  Of course, the Southern Ocean has huge swells.  And for that matter, Robin Knox-Johnston, who has spent more time than most in the Southern Ocean, had his worst heavy-weather experience in the North Atlantic.  Of course, it could just be that there are more wave buoys where there's more shipping!
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