Attributes of a JR hull

  • 07 Apr 2015 23:16
    Reply # 3285830 on 3231439
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Robert,
    the reason for moving the CE of the JR a bit aft of that of the BR, is that  The CP (actual centre of pressure) tends to move forward on a junksail, with the max camber only 35% from the luff. I learned this when trying different junksails on my early boat, Malena, in the early nineties.

    Arne 

    PS: Anyway, there is no guarantee that I hit it, but there is room for moving the sail a bit forward or aft, if needed

    Last modified: 07 Apr 2015 23:19 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 07 Apr 2015 21:30
    Reply # 3285682 on 3231439
    Deleted user
    Hi Arne, I've been following your Ingeborg posts and will be very interested to hear how the summer comparison sailing against the bermuda rigged versions go. My question...in your posted drawings the CE of the junk sail seems to be positioned in line with the CE of the bermuda mainsail alone. Is this correct? And why not use the CE of main and headsail combined? Is the IF hull an issue? thanks robert self
  • 21 Feb 2015 17:50
    Reply # 3231469 on 3231439
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Dennis, just a quick comment:

    I apologise if I have made the Contessa 26 sound like a dull and mediocre sailboat. The Contessa most certainly is a fine boat which I would recommend for swift cruising. It is just that the IF, with her slimmer hull, higher ballast ratio and lower freeboard and cabin, is a hotter sailer  -  but with a cosy (read: cramped) cabin, much less suited for cruising with more than 1-2 people. I have been on board a Contessa 26, and her cabin was so much more cruiser-friendly. A couple of days ago I was also on board a Marieholm 26  -  basically an IF with raised freeboard and cabin, and spacewise this felt more like the Contessa.

    So it depends what you intend to use the boat for. If cruises over more than three weeks at a time is on your mind, go for the Contessa, Marieholm 26 or the bigger Frances 26. An advantage with the folkboat types is that it is easier to replace a dead diesel with an outboard on their stern.

    Arne

    Last modified: 21 Feb 2015 18:38 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 21 Feb 2015 16:19
    Message # 3231439
    Deleted user

    I am in search of an appropriate BR boat to convert to JR.  As stated before, my prime contenders are the Frances 26, Marieholm 26, Marieholm IF and the Contessa 26.   

    I am looking to widen my choices withing that size boat.  The others that I am considering (i.e. Vineyard Vixen 29, Southern Cross 28) have a ballast/Displacement ratio of around 40%.  In your opinion, does a JR require a higher bal/disp ratio than a BR?  I know Arne has been critical of the ration on the Contessa 26 (42%), but it and the Southern Cross 28 (40%) have circumnavigated.

    We all agree. higher is better, but does the JR present any unique challenges to boats at the lower end of the bal/disp chain?

    Dennis



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