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  • 07 Feb 2015 00:07
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    Welcome aboard Gene, Crystal, Byron and Rowan, 

    I too was inspired by Annie's book and my sailing was limited to three months of mirror dinghy sailing as a schoolgirl! (Annie was known as 'that woman' aboard Crib, until her tip about foolproof popcorn turned René into another confirmed fan)

    You are in the right place to access the support and advice of a group of generous and knowledgeable Junk Rig enthusiasts, who have travelled the path ahead of you, and I wish you every success in achieving your dream. 

    René and I look forward to meeting you all when we get to the US NW!

    Last modified: 07 Feb 2015 00:15 | Anonymous
  • 26 Jan 2015 23:23
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    Gene Eisele wrote:

    David, as I understand it, the hull and deck were done by Cape George Yachts delivered in 1975 (which would make it a very early Cape George), the interior and rig were done by the original owner and completed in 1977, he added the engine in the 80's.

    Hi guys and welcome to the junk rig.  I hope I don't become known as 'That Woman' by your family, as has happened on other occasions.

    But I suggest that instead of guessing and speculating, you contact the owner of Haiku, Robin Loehr, who is a member of the JRA and listed here! :-D
  • 24 Jan 2015 00:30
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    If I were to build, it would be quite the slog to pick the design. In my armchair boatbuilder experiences its been a Wharram Tiki, a Bolger AS 39, a Colvin Gazelle, a Benford Dory aka Badger, a Bueller Dragonfly, and more. I recently discovered the Jonques de Plasaince and Allen Ferrells China Cloud, both of which are just gorgeous.

    Most likely though, we are looking at buying some "classic plastic" due to time and funds. I'm very interested to hear suggestions. We figure that the only real requirements are that we have at least 4 berths (2 of them could be pretty short), at least 6'1" headroom at least in the galley, that it be able to carry a reasonable amount of stores, and that it be solid and seaworthy enough not fight/scare/exhaust us unduly in bad weather (not that we will be seeking out bad weather, but you can't always avoid it)

    I've been leaning toward Albergs and Allieds as seeming like a decent combination of the above, while not having the cult status (and high price) of things like Halberg-Rassy's and BCC's
  • 24 Jan 2015 00:17
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    David, as I understand it, the hull and deck were done by Cape George Yachts delivered in 1975 (which would make it a very early Cape George), the interior and rig were done by the original owner and completed in 1977, he added the engine in the 80's.

    My understanding is that Cape George Yachts sold a lot of decked hulls to be owner completed, as well as delivering completed boats. 


    I suspect that the "official" pics are all of ones finished (or refinished) by the yard, since those would show off their work to its fullest.

    The specs provided to me by the current owner match the figures given by CGY with the exception of draft, which he reckons at 5' 6" vs the official 5' 0", and displacement, which he wasn't sure of, but thought the official 24,000 lbs sounded about right.
  • 23 Jan 2015 22:02
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    Well, I looked at the YouTube video and the photos I found here , and I don't seem to be looking at the same boat. Is it just a Cape George 36 hull, with a deck completed by someone other than Cape George Marine Works, Port Townsend? All the official photos show a very high spec boat, which Haiku doesn't appear to be. 
  • 23 Jan 2015 18:08
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    Thanks David,

    Were probably look to buy an older boat that's needs a bit, but not too much work. Given the lack of experience actually sailing, I don't think we can wait long enough to build a boat. Depending on how things go, that could be in the future some year.

    We do have some funds, but they are rather limited. I think we could stretch to as much as 50k US for boat and repairs, outfitting, etc., but that wouldn't leave us a whole lot left. Preferably, we will be closer to 30-35k by the time we are ready to go.

    There is a boat (advertised here) that is particularly intriguing. I'm not sure if anybody has actually gotten to see it yet. It's a Cape George 36 with JR, named Haiku, down in Monterey. I've heard great things about the hull design and the charateristics of this particular boat seem like a good match for us. It's cosmetically rough, and has an owner built 'workboat' interior, and very simple systems. All things that depress the price, but are in line with our desires/skills. The big questions are, is it sound? A major refit would not be conducive to domestic tranquility. And how long will it take us to get the boat, and our skills, up to snuff to get it north, from Monteray to Puget Sound, the 'hard direction' as you said.
  • 23 Jan 2015 16:54
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    Welcome, Gene & family.

    There's a growing number of JRA members around the Puget Sound/San Juan/Gulf Islands/ Strait of Georgia, so you wouldn't be entirely alone here, as you climb the sailing and junk rig learning curves. Added to that, the cruising in the BC and SE Alaska area is the best on the planet, IMHO, and not too challenging. It's not so bad wintering around here (I'm in Victoria, right now, but Oak Harbor is good also), so long as you can get plugged into shore power, or can get access to beached firewood for heating. The run down to San Francisco Bay is a bit exposed, but do-able once you've gained some experience - it's the coming back north that's the hard yards!

    Have you any ideas as to what kind of boat you're looking to buy/build? With a young but growing family, it'll probably be somewhere in the 36ft - 40ft range, according to finances available.
  • 23 Jan 2015 14:53
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    Greetings,


    I just joined and thought I should introduce myself to the group. I am Gene. My wife, Crystal, and our two children, Byron (2) and Rowan (5 months) have just sold our house and are planning to move aboard. We are currently still landlocked and boatless while we wrap things up with my Medieval tent building business and search for the boat.

    We were turned on to the Junk Rig by Annie Hills writings, and are pretty convinced that the specific advantages brought by it strongly outweigh the disadvantages for our needs. In particular, the low tech, self sufficiency aspects.

    Our intents are to go very simple with the boat. Minimal systems and minimal reliance on the complex, high tech supply chain are an increasing part of our scheme, regardless of weather we are on land or water.

    I am a reasonably competent woodworker (though with no boatbuilding experience) in addition to my tent making skills (which I hope will give me a head start on sailmaking and other boat canvas work)

    Our sailing experience is not great (though I fancy other folks have jumped in with less). I have probably 60 hours of day sailing in a beat up old Star and a Sunfish. Crystal just completed the ASA Basic Keelboat course (12 hours of instruction). We may take a little bit more instruction, but it is very expensive and we don't want to cut into our boat fund/cruising kitty too much.

    We are planning to make the NW USA (Puget Sound) our home cruising grounds due to proximity to family and a number of good folk schools that are close to shore there, but are still looking somewhat longingly at the east coast with its proliferation of sheltered waters and ease of heading to warmer climes for the winter months.

    Thanks, in advance, for all the wisdom we will gleaning from the members here,

    Gene Eisele
       " ...there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in junk-rigged boats" 
                                                               - the Chinese Water Rat

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