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  • 19 Feb 2015 18:03
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    David Tyler wrote:I've done a rapid edit on the JRA flyer to correct the dates and subscriptions, and you can download it here if you would like to print it and maybe pin it to your sailing club/marina noticeboard. 

    (It will need amending again after the AGM, to show the new Secretary's mailing address. Suggestions for further amendments here, please).

    Just for interest and comparison, here is the OCC flyer - rather simpler than ours.


    David has amended the flyer to show current address and correct erroneous Swift bank code. The latest version can be accessed from here.
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  • 15 Jun 2014 15:14
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    Arne Kverneland wrote:

     

    so even I could be accused for promoting the JR, now that I think of it...

    Cheers, Arne

    And making a cracking good job of it too...
  • 15 Jun 2014 15:01
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    OK, ok,

     

    it dawns to me now that “promoting” is a much softer word than “preaching”, “arguing” or “campaigning”. I guess I interpreted the word to something closer to preaching  -  my fault.

     

    As for how well or not the the “50 good reasons for JR” were received on the boat-design.net  -  here is a  link to that thread:

    http://goo.gl/cLSZb9

    I admit that I use to speak rather enthusiastically for the JR, and I gladly take curious people for a spin in my Frøken Sørensen  - so even I could be accused for promoting the JR, now that I think of it...

    Cheers, Arne
  • 15 Jun 2014 10:19
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    The JRA promotes the junk rig because that's what it's there for. It's an organisation constituted to promote the junk rig. Good. So there's no question then about whether or not we "should" be promoting the junk rig.

    "Promoting" an idea doesn't mean demanding that other people take it to heart, it doesn't mean being strident about it, it doesn't mean taking umbrage when, to use the religious parallel that seems so unnecessarily to have crept into this discussion, people do not immediately see the light and become converts.

    "Promoting" an idea means getting it out there, it means getting it discussed, it means making it visible. Then, if and when people come looking for it, it means having the information to hand that will help inquirers to become better informed.

    Arne said "...In contrast, when our '50 good reasons for JR' recently were presented in a boat design forum, they were not well received."

    I just read the thread that Arne talked about and, looked at in light of what I've said above, Arne is wrong and gives a dangerously misleading impression of what happened in that thread.

    http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/top-50-advantages-junk-rig-49409.html

    If "well received" means that there were suddenly thousands of screaming converts then, no, that wasn't what happened. If "well received" means "given thoughtful consideration and discussed seriously" then that was what happened.

    We send out ripples. We can do more. Often, out on the ocean of the future, those ripples will be flattened by the waves. But sometimes, and magically, our ripples will become the waves themselves.


  • 14 Jun 2014 10:11
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    Arne Kverneland wrote:

    Stavanger, Thursday

    To promote, or not to promote...

     

     

    Hum, I was supposed to shut up here for a while, but this matter is interesting.

     

     

    Why on earth should we promote our rigs? Just as I dislike missionaries, both religious and anti-religious,...........................

     

    Arne

    I so agree with you, Arne. The answer to your implied question “Why ARE we pushing JR as if it were a religion?” is that the people who have run the JRA Committee for the last three years are ‘empire-builders’ and have used junkrigassociation.org as a machine which is an end in itself. They also want the numbers and the lolly.

    I do have some optimism that the new Committee under the Chairmanship of Leslie Verbrugge will pull the administration back to some less frenetic position and, if they want multiple applications for elected posts next year, I hope they will radically simplify the Committee protocols, the website and the horrendous Constitution.
  • 20 Apr 2014 06:52
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    Henry Prokop wrote:-- in the section on Junk information it would be nice to have a name of a person who has actually used the part listed to get some feedback.  I am particularly interested in sources of aluminum masts on the West coast of the U.S.       

    Henry

    Hi Henry - glad you enjoyed my article!!

    The best way to find out who has used item x, y or z is probably simply to post the question on the Technical Forum.  Most of those who have contributed links and information are fairly active on the website.
  • 16 Apr 2014 23:23
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    Hi Henry. Great to see you posting so soon, and thanks for the feedback on the Junk Info > Useful Links section. As Webmaster (until May 3rd) I have to say I agree with Gary. All of the links have been sent in or mentioned by members, and have been added to the Useful Links pages either by me or by the previous Webmaster, David Tyler. I can't see any way that we could allow members to add their own links; nor would I have the time to always mention the names of those who sent them in.

    We're always looking for volunteers to help with the site, so if our new webmaster, Paul Thompson from May 3rd thinks this would be a good idea, you may find he turns it into one of our Join In projects and approaches you first! Very glad you like the site; thanks.
  • 14 Apr 2014 08:00
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    Hi Henry, welcome to the club and forum!
    I reckon the only improvement this place needs is a greater range of people posting. There's  large membership but only the same small proportion actually post in the forum. There's no harm in, before setting up a rig, peppering this place with questions. I pretty well did just that and am now sailing the beast. Sails like a swan actually..
  • 14 Apr 2014 07:21
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    Just joined the JRA although I've been on the website at times in the past.  I have enjoyed reading everything from the forums to the old issues of the magazine.  Your website is quite impressive.  Annie Hill's article in "Good Old Boat" magazine ran about six pages and was in a good magazine since most of the readers own older boats and are inclined to experiment.  For Junkies in the U.S.  there is a Chinese Junk listed for sale on a website called Bone Yard boats.  It is constructed of teak and is located in Minnesota.  This last fall I was moving and came across Annie Hill's famous book which I purchased some years ago.  I read the section on Junk rigs and started thinking seriously about the subject.  So now it is becoming a question of whether to Junk or not.  My current boat is a cutter.  One more thing-- in the section on Junk information it would be nice to have a name of a person who has actually used the part listed to get some feedback.  I am particularly interested in sources of aluminum masts on the West coast of the U.S.       

    Henry

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  • 08 Apr 2014 04:42
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    Hi David,

    Do you by any chance have a copy of Hans Scheubel's Der Spurlose Pfad: Meditives Segeln mid dem Dschunkenrigg? I'd be very keen to obtain a copy or even just a look at somebody else's copy. I've got Captain Nemo's Cookbook Papers and it's an enjoyable read. I'll certainly look forward to what you may produce in this genre.
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