Promoting / Raising Awareness of the Junk Rig

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  • 25 Mar 2014 00:19
    Reply # 1523989 on 1523403
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    Georg Warnecke wrote:"info sheet"?
    sounds great…
    where can i find it?
    i'd like to have some in my li'l boat – even though i think i first have to translate it…! –
    not sure about what's a 'rolling junket', brian…?
    The sheet is out of date, Georg, which is one reason why I didn't provide a link to it. The other reason is that I've forgotten where it is on the site.. If I can find it I'll edit this to include the link. David might be persuaded to update it. Let's see if he responds here :-)

    A Rolling Junket in Daniel's case saw him sailing up the east coast of the States, meeting and sailing in company with people with junks. The distances were large so this was an innovative approach, because getting them all together in one place at the same time would have been difficult. His tales of that cruise are here.
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  • 24 Mar 2014 19:48
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    Peter Manning wrote:I think Annie may be referring to the Brest Festival 1994 or 96 where I seem to recall seeing Badger. A fabulous event with all sorts of boats present including many square riggers. Midway through there was a sail in company from Brest to Dournazez (? spelling) which provided a wonderful spectacle.
    That's the one, Peter.  Guess it must have been '96.  For a while, I had a wonderful picture taken from the Brest/Douarnenez publicity brochure showing a phtograph of the sail in company, going past the Tas de pois, taken from the air.  There, in the middle of the fleet, were two bright green sails, wing and wong.  It was lovely!  (If anyone has a copy of that photo and would scan and send it to me, you would be my friend for life!)

    Georg: yes, the human condition is sufficient to make a person weep, let alone sigh.  Still, where there is life, there is hope ....  Best of luck!
  • 24 Mar 2014 12:41
    Reply # 1523502 on 1523185
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    sounds really great!
  • 24 Mar 2014 08:45
    Reply # 1523438 on 1523185
    It was suggested I ask my friend who did my launch video if he would be interested in doing a video of my explaining the rigging of Redwing and showing her under sail. Well I finally got to ask him today and he is quite interested.
    Just need to get my outboard sorted.

    [Webmaster note: Thanks for that, Gary, and for posting a similar comment in the relevant Join In thread'.]
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  • 24 Mar 2014 08:27
    Reply # 1523425 on 1523185
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    I think Annie may be referring to the Brest Festival 1994 or 96 where I seem to recall seeing Badger. A fabulous event with all sorts of boats present including many square riggers. Midway through there was a sail in company from Brest to Dournazez (? spelling) which provided a wonderful spectacle.
  • 24 Mar 2014 06:50
    Reply # 1523403 on 1523185
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    "info sheet"?
    sounds great…
    where can i find it?
    i'd like to have some in my li'l boat – even though i think i first have to translate it…! –
    not sure about what's a 'rolling junket', brian…?

    about the junket (thank you very much, indeed, for teaching me this new word!!!), well, maybe i should try to start with those living at the baltic…

    now, about the lethargy and unwillingness of planning ahead of the many – this seems to be a common problem in many areas of the world, annie…
    *sigh*
    maybe it's just part of the conditio humana…
    *deep sigh*

    nevertheless – i could even think about putting my boat on the trailer and drive up north just to spread the idea…
  • 24 Mar 2014 00:46
    Reply # 1523302 on 1523285
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    Annie Hill wrote:
    Junkets certainly attract a lot of attention from nearby yachties.  An early and successful one was at Brest in the 90s.  Can't remember which year, I'm afraid: I'm getting old.  The committee gave us pride of place as Vieux
    Gréements, which is an accurate description of junk rig, and we sailed in company with lots of luggers and gaffers.
    Wasn't that in Missee Lee? Think you wrote about it in one of the mags.

    We were invited to 'send' boats to that event in France last year; can't remember where or what it was called, cos I'm 'getting old too'. I don't think any of 'our' junks were able to show up. Pity.
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  • 24 Mar 2014 00:20
    Reply # 1523285 on 1523185
    From my experience I reckon there are two good ways of getting junk rig promoted: articles in the mainstream yachting press and junkets.

    I wrote three articles for Boating NZ, which, if I can judge from the response, were read by every boatie in the country.  However, NZ is not a large country, so that's not quite so impressive as it sounds, although I've had a lot of people ask questions and compliment me on the boat.

    Junkets certainly attract a lot of attention from nearby yachties.  An early and successful one was at Brest in the 90s.  Can't remember which year, I'm afraid: I'm getting old.  The committee gave us pride of place as Vieux
    Gréements, which is an accurate description of junk rig, and we sailed in company with lots of luggers and gaffers.

    The major problem, I'm sorry to say, is the complete lethargy of the vast majority of the membership, who rarely even have the courtesy to reply to personal emails inviting them to participate in a junket.   Daniel put a huge amount of effort into his Rolling Junket, but elicited very little response from the many members in the USA.  I have by no means given up trying, but one look at the Join In forum where junkets are mentioned, will show you how little feedback we get.  General postings on the fora will usually be responded to by the score or so of members who regularly post.  A personal email or letter (and no doubt a phone call, but this is probably too expensive an option) is slightly more successful.  I'm not sure whether people will more readily plan 3 weeks ahead, 3 months ahead or 3 years ahead. 

    I hope you do try to plan a Baltic junket, Georg, and I hope you get an enthusiastic response.  If you want any help at all in organising it, just ask me.  I'll do anything that's possible from half way round the world.  What a grand sight it would be: 44 junks strutting their stuff on the Baltic Sea!  I wish you the very best of luck with the idea.
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  • 23 Mar 2014 23:16
    Reply # 1523265 on 1523185
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    Hi Georg. We've tried a number of things:

    Last year I sent most UK yachting magazines a copy of one of our magazines. I saw no response at all. That mailshot went with a covering letter. I emailed the covering letter to lots of non UK sailing magazines and to several blogs and sites, and attached a pdf of the same magazine. A few mentioned us or wrote articles, but not enough to make the time and effort worthwhile. That response was exactly what Annie Hill predicted. Magazines these days exist to make money and live off advertising. We don't advertise, but pointy sailboat manufacturers do... Sometimes members like Annie are able to get their articles published in pro magazines; that helps a lot.

    We once provided an info sheet about the JRA and the rig for members to print out and keep on board so they could hand out to anyone who expressed interest. Of course we couldn't measure the response, but my gut feeling was that few members used it; I might be wrong. Anyway it needs an update if anyone would like to take that on, and if we felt it would be used.

    The best way to get the rig seen and talked about is to sail it. The number of people who take photos, as Barry and Meps Stellricht wrote in a recent JRA mag, is astonishing. Many happily seek you out later to ask about the rig... The challenge is to get them interested enough to begin to think seriously about it, and that usually means taking them for a sail.

    I'm pleased to see you suggesting a 'junket' in Europe. Your main problem would be agreeing a date on which busy members could get their boats together in one place. It will only happen when there are several boats in an easy sail of each other. Examples of places where we've seen successful 'junkets' (get-togethers) include the south coast of the UK, New Zealand and Norway.

    I once took a trip to the Netherlands to a Freedom 'rally'. Most years they manage to get half a dozen boats in one place. It was a great weekend. Planning years ahead could help... Forty-four boats in one place would be spectacular, but just half a dozen grabs a lot of interest.

    One other idea is a 'rolling' junket in which members agree to meet up with each other as they move around. USA member Daniel Collins invented that idea last year, and pulled it off. Keep thinking!
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  • 23 Mar 2014 19:05
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    an idea crossed my mind – i wonder what we can do to promote the junk rig?
    how would it i.e. be if as many as possible "junkies" will meet on one sailing area – accompanied by all the sailing magazines and the media?
    44 "junkies" on one place will kick off a discussion, i presume…
    this could be planned in advance, maybe (i.e.) 3 yrs from now – and the baltic sea might a good place for europe…

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