A new sail for Bugsy

  • 08 Jun 2023 03:14
    Reply # 13212344 on 13202628

    Hi Mauro,

    Thankyou for the encouragement. I do find as I negotiate my 8th decade projects look daunting and when completed I wonder what was all the fuss. This will probably be the same.

  • 07 Jun 2023 20:28
    Reply # 13212175 on 13202628

    Hi Alex 

    I was also new to sewing as i started to make the cambered sail for my Kingfisher 20+. I'd go for Arne's barrel method wich I find easy to understand and to put in practice. Moreover, Arne's articles are really detailed and there are a lot of pictures of making different sails in his files. This helped me a lot.

    I grabbed a sail plan from his portfolio, let print paper templates and started sewing. After a couple of weeks the job was done.  

    I think there is no straight seam in my sail, but it works greatly!!! My tough, heavy, big little boat moves happily to windward also in light winds and points surprisingly high...

    Good luck with your project


  • 06 Jun 2023 05:04
    Reply # 13211138 on 13202628

    Thank you Eric,

    My flat sail has served to convince me of all the advantages of JR, from my very first sail. I look forward to better performance. First I have to negotiate lack of sewing ability etc but I’m looking forward to the challenge.

  • 05 Jun 2023 21:07
    Reply # 13210897 on 13202628
    Anonymous member (Administrator)


    For years, I avoyed junk rig besause it's bad performances windward, with the flat sails designed under the "practical junk rig" concept.

    I'm now a convinced defender of the junk rig because various cambered sails (barel cuts, split junkrigs... ) perform as well as "pointies" headwind.

    So please don't stuck to early sixty's.... of last century !


    PS: no one would even imagine a flat pointy nowdays !

  • 05 Jun 2023 10:43
    Reply # 13210549 on 13202628

    Wow Arne, that’s what I needed to hear, no more wavering. I am already of student of yours but have never heard the difference between the rigs put in that way. This reminds me of all those moments and longer times of frustration. So i will get on with it. Thank you, I will post my progress for others who are in my position.

  • 05 Jun 2023 09:07
    Reply # 13210541 on 13202628
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Hi Alex.
    Over the years I have made a few junksails, ranging between 10 and 48sqm, all of them with around 8% camber, using the barrel cut method. I guess I spend somewhere between 30 and 50 hours on each sail, and I am anything but a pro.

    I cannot imagine how I could shave off as much as 30% time on making my sails flat. As for performance, the cambered sails play in a different league than the flat sail I initially had. Generally, I estimate the improvement in progress to windward to be  30-50%. In some conditions, light winds and a bit chop, the flat sail will simply leave you there, while the cambered sail gets you started.

    To me, making a flat junksail for a boat like your Farr 5000, is simply waste of time.

    Cheers and good luck,

    Last modified: 05 Jun 2023 09:30 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 04 Jun 2023 10:22
    Reply # 13210256 on 13202628

    Thank you Annie and Scott I will follow up on the Weathermax. I have been thinking Sunbrella which I think Annie mentioned ages ago. Although my sail will be covered whenever I’m not sailing, I still think UV resistance is a good idea. I’m also wondering if the cambered sail is worth th effort and expense to point a little higher and go a little faster on the wind. I quite like my green sail.

  • 29 May 2023 15:39
    Reply # 13207745 on 13202628
    Alex wrote:

    [...]I would welcome advice on what cloth and webbing to use bearing in mind the boat is a day sailer and although 15 knots of breeze will be common around here, to be out in 25 knots would be unlikely. [...]

    Hello Alex,

    I have been very happy with the WeatherMAX 65 (Sometimes called WeatherMAX LT) that I used for my sail. It weighs 6.5 oz per square yard compared to the 8.0 oz of the 'normal' WeatherMAX that other JRA members have used.

    I ordered it from Seattle Fabrics. 

    Assuming I followed all the links correctly then I think it should be available from Contender Sailcloth in Australia.

    I have not used the heavier WeatherMAX but I have to assume the WM 6.5 is much easier to sew. The two sides of the fabric are identical as far as I can tell and I can't imagine the fabric would be too light for a JR sail of any size.

    I am less confident that I picked the best webbing and other sail materials, but I really like this fabric. I would like to see someone else use it and confirm that it is a good choice.

    Last modified: 30 May 2023 02:22 | Anonymous member
  • 29 May 2023 09:57
    Reply # 13207674 on 13202628
    Anonymous wrote:I would welcome advice on what cloth and webbing to use 

    I don't suppose this'll be a popular comment, but I think good old Dacron sailcloth is a good choice for making sails from. As a junk sail, it lasts a very long time and can be patched without major issue...
  • 29 May 2023 04:12
    Reply # 13207641 on 13202628

    I'm sorry that nobody has replied to you earlier: most unlike the JRA!

    Choosing light, UV-resistant canvas isn't that easy, and it's not made any better by the fact that so few boats are out in strong sunlight for any lenght of time.  I've been happy with my Weathermax up to now (2+ years), although an acquaintance complained that his had deteriorated badly in the Tropics.  There is a lighterweight Weathermax available.

    As to webbing.Don't be tempted by polypropylene which deteriorates very rapidly in sunshine - and isn't particularly strong.  The black, polyester webbing that most sailmakers use lasts for years.  I have always found sailmakers incredibly obliging people and if you go to the one nearest to you, I'm sure they will order you a reel of webbing so that you know you're getting the right stuff.

    Hopefully, with this reply taking the topic back up to the top, someone else will chip in.

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