Junk rig for Wayfarer dinghy

  • 28 Jan 2015 12:52
    Reply # 3211989 on 1318026
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    David,

    for such a little rig I suggest you rather make a wooden mast. If you can find two good 2-by-4” spruce planks, 5 to 5.5m long, you would have what you need to build one. My Oslo-dinghy, Broremann, at around 220kg was given a 5.3m long spruce mast at 9cm diameter (4cm in the top), after a season with a borrowed mast with only 7cm diameter.

    The 9cm mast came out at 10.0kg. It has a big advantage over the straight aluminium tube in  that the mass centre is lower and the slimmer top section also has less windage. The 2-pot varnish I gave that mast is both robust and long-lasting, so will do without re-varnishing for several years.

    If you look up the second article I wrote about Broremann, you will see more details.

    Anyway, good luck!

    Arne

  • 28 Jan 2015 10:01
    Reply # 3211932 on 1318026

    After a bit of a false start and thinking about it for the last year and a half, I have finally decided to fit a junk rig to my boat. (Wayfarer dinghy) after our Winter Series ends in April. A low angled yard split junk rig is my preferred option as moving the mast is not really an option due to the large forward bouyancy tank.

    As advised by Arne, I have already made a few small paractice panels and batten pockets and they have given me confidence to be able to make a larger one. 

    I've been considering Mast and batten size for the sail I propose to build.  Approx. 105sqM/ 125sqft.  I had originally thought to go with a 100mm x 3.2mm x 5M for the mast, but looking at "Froken Sorenson" with 100mm x 4mm and its 20sqM sail, I think that may be overkill. 

    Another option I'm considering is a 75mm x 3.2mm mast which I would reinforce  to maybe 1 - 1.5M above the partners on the inside with a hollow wooden  doubler to help at the stress point.  My thoughts on the 75mm option is that it would give reduced windage and weight up top and that the reinforcing on the lower inside might give it enough strength to withstand the bending forces at the partner. Tube weight approx 10kg.

    Next option is a straightforward 88.9mm x 3.2mm with no reinforcing in the bottom.  Less work but increased windage and weight over the 75mm and lighter than the 100mm options.  Tube weight approx. 11.8kg

    Or the 100mm x 3.2mm option.  Stiffer than the 88.9mm but heavier up top. Tube weight approx 13.5kg.

    I was thinking 25mm x 1.5 for the battens and 37.5mm x 1.5mm for the yard.

    The Wayfarer dinghy is  4.7M long, 1.8M wide, is unballasted, normally sails with 13.5sqM and 2 crew and weighs approx 235kg ready to sail, including mast, sails, etc. 

    Any advice or suggestions gratefully received. 

    David D.

  • 18 Jun 2013 15:17
    Reply # 1320865 on 1318026

    Hi David

    I've just seen your posting as I'm currently in very limited contact while in the Norwedian fjords, but will be back home very soon and contact you then. You have some interesting ideas and I'd be happy to discuss them with you.

    Cheers,  Slieve

  • 15 Jun 2013 01:52
    Reply # 1318535 on 1318026
    Deleted user
    Hi David,

    I like your idea and I have thought about a similar arrangement: a steel structure above deck to reduce the length above partners of the mast in order to reduce its diametre thus its weight.

    I was thinking of using the stay chainplate and probably one chainplate on each side but maybe not the original ones as the angle of traction is quite different. I might use steel tubing instead of cable shrouds.

    I am in the first stages of planning and my timber mast is drying until I have the time to start on that project in 2015. Hopefully by then also the split rig will have evolved and ripened.
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    Cheers

    Thierry
  • 14 Jun 2013 12:27
    Message # 1318026
    Hello, I recently joined the JRA having taken an interest in Junk Rigs since Poppy's article in PBO.
    I have a MKII Wayfarer (designer Ian Proctor) dinghy which I am thinking of converting to Junk Rig. There are over 10,000 of these dinghies (4.8M, 15'10") being raced and cruised around the world. It has a Bermudan sail area of 13.5M2 or 140Sqft.
    My reasons for thinking about converting are the ease of single-handed reefing and the reduction of active sail control to basically just one sheet. Another reason is that I hope to shorten the mast to enable me to sail under a local bridge (5.5M@ Highest Astro Tide)without having to lower the mast each time I go in and out.
    The boat is of GRP construction and has a large buoyancy tank, just forward of and underneath the foot of the the mast, which I do not want to modify as the buoyancy is a safety feature necessary on a dinghy. I hope to use a split junk rig and maintain current mast position. The max mast length above sea level I can use is approx 5.5M. With this restriction, I have found the CE of the original Bermudan rig, drawn up a junk rig of max luff length 4M and found its CE iaw PJR guidelines. With the Junk CE placed on the same line over the Bermudan Rig CE, I end up with a balance of 28-30% forward of the mast. The Junk CE is taller than the Bermudan. But the aspect ratio is only 1.23. PJR recommends a min of 1.4. What would the effects of the lower Aspect Ratio be? Is it unusable?
    Also,the original mast section is only 54mm across, fits in a tabernacle and is sort of keel-stepped onto the top of a buoyancy tank. As I am restricting myself from major structural modifications, I was thinking of making a steel (for strength) structure , to fit in the original tabernacle, and rising above the deck to the height of the junk boom. The structure would be widened above deck level to whatever diameter would be appropriate for the mast required for the original sail area. This steel structure would then be braced just below the boom by short shrouds coming from approx the same area (which would probably have to be strengthened) as the original bermudan shrouds and a front shroud coming from the original forestay position (already reinforced). The new junk mast would slot into the steel tabernacle and be attached by a bolt. A timber insert would help strengthen and support the steel where it changes section from 54mm to the new mast diameter. What do experienced Junk builders think of this idea? Would steel shrouds, more or less using the original shroud and forestay positions be good enough to take the forces of a swaying bending junk mast.
    Finally, the original sail area is 140 Sqft or 13.5 SqM with 30-32% in the Genoa. Could anyone recommend aluminium tubing sections/materials and suppliers in the UK for the mast and battens if my above proposal sounds at all feasible.
    Unfortunately, despite trying to use paragraphs to make this post easier to read, I haven't been able to transfer them through to the forum text. Sorry about the long post, Regards David.
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